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RE: [uos-convene] UOS Agenda and Logistical Details

To: "Upper Ontology Summit convention" <uos-convene@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Cassidy, Patrick J." <pcassidy@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:19:30 -0500
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Adam,
   ISO 159256 is an ontology, and an implementation in OWL is
available.  ISO 11179 is a specification for a registry.  Perhaps you
had the two mixed up?    (01)

Pat    (02)


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Subject: Re: [uos-convene] UOS Agenda and Logistical Details    (04)

Chris,
   My understanding was that the subject of the meeting was formal 
upper ontologies.  Particular general purpose ontologies implemented 
in a particular logical and computation language.
   My understanding was that BFO is a collection of published ideas, 
rather than a particular implemented model in a formal logical and 
computational language, and that DOLCE incorporated the ideas from 
BFO.  I certainly respect BFO and no slight is intended.  If there is 
a particular file in something like KIF/CL or CycL for BFO, as there 
is for Cyc, SUMO and DOLCE, then this would indeed be an omission.  I 
would welcome correction if I'm mistaken.
   For 11179 it's not a formal upper ontology.  That does not imply a 
value judgement.  It's simply a different sort of product that does 
not have (at least to my knowledge) a formal semantics as one does 
for an ontology implemented in a language like CL.    (05)

Adam    (06)

At 08:52 AM 3/10/2006, Christopher Menzel wrote:
>On Mar 10, 2006, at 10:46 AM, Adam Pease wrote:
>
>>Folks,
>>   Here's a revision to explicitly schedule discussion of relating
>>the ontologies together.  I would stand by the division between the
>>three formal upper ontologies and other ontologies (formal or
>>informal, upper or domain specific, implemented in a particular
>>computational language or not), but agree that others should be
>>able to present, as suggested for Wednesday morning.  I've extended
>>the proposed time so no one should feel slighted.
>>
>>Preparation meeting
>>Tuesday - 8:30am
>>Purposes:       (1) Introduce the three formal upper ontologies
>>                 (2) Propose a joint public statement
>>                 (3) Organize a proposal for joint funded work
>>
>>8:30am          Nicola Guarino - DOLCE (with Barry and Aldo if
desired)
>>9:30am          Doug Lenat - Cyc
>>10:30am Adam Pease - SUMO
>
>I don't understand why Barry/BFO is not here, Adam; BFO purports to
>be as comprehensive as the three above, at least qua ULO, does he
>not?  And he's not exactly a newcomer (though I suppose his being a
>philosopher counts against him a priori :-).  I suspect Matthew West
>would make the same claim for his work.  What are your reasons for
>singling out these three?
>
>-chris
>
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