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Re: [uom-ontology-std] An UoM Ontology based on UCUM v1.6

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From: "Christopher Spottiswoode" <cms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:24:42 +0200
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Oh dear!  May I assure you, Gunther, that my expression of astonishment ("Wow!")
followed by a direct quote and two questions was not meant as a rant?  I am
sorry that you have taken it as one.  A stimulus? - yes!    (01)

Perhaps you could start by telling us where I might have misinterpreted the T&C
as they appear, or how they might be read or applied differently?  They do come
across to me as unrealistically dictatorial, despite their understandable best
of intentions.    (02)

Certainly, if UCUM is to be a kind of ingredient in the brew ahead, there should
be a debate on the matter, or at least some clarification of what they really
mean.    (03)

Best regards,
Christopher    (04)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gunther Schadow" <gschadow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "uom-ontology-std" <uom-ontology-std@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [uom-ontology-std] An UoM Ontology based on UCUM v1.6    (05)


If ranting like this is the spirit of this group, then yes,
in the absence of constructive talking the restriction would
apply. But I didn't think ranting was the spirit of this
group and hence something workable could certainly have been
worked out.    (06)

kind regards,
-Gunther    (07)

Christopher Spottiswoode wrote:
> Wow!
>
> Following the links below soon reveals the first paragraph of the UCUM
> terms and conditions of use to be this:
>
>     1) To prevent the dilution of the purpose of the Licensed Materials,
>     i.e., that of providing a definitive standard for identifying units
>     of measures in electronic documents and messages, users shall not
>     use any of the Licensed Materials for the purpose of developing or
>     promulgating a different standard for identifying units of measure,
>     regardless of whether the intended use is in the field of medicine,
>     or any other field of science or trade.
>
> While it is easy to have some sympathy with its authors' bold intention,
> have they not with that ruling expressly disallowed any progressive use
> of the UCUM product by the Ontolog UoM (or any other) project?
>
> On the other hand, since the properties of standard units of measure can
> hardly be any body's property, maybe the authors and publishers of UCUM,
> like King Canute, should quit trying to stop the tide from rolling on?    (08)


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