Re: [sio-dev] Definition of the SIO project

[rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Hello John (& All):

I enjoyed your slides and wanted to share a few thoughts.

I still regularly attend Semantic Web community events. Over the past few years, as the community has grown the experience level of members has gone WAY down. The expanded market is generally good news and the folks showing up recently are smart and eager to learn, but are just getting their first exposure to semantics.

I'm interested in hearing how things go. Recently, the material that most presenters cover does not even include RDFS inferencing. That would be considered too advanced for today's mainstream audience. 

FWIW - This recent video [1] where Tim describes Linked Data (LOD) as being like a Bag of Chips says a lot about the Semantic Web community and the serendipitous theory underlying LOD.

For this audience, publishing RDFa [2] would set a compelling context for slides 63 - 68. It looks like RDFa is getting some uptake. Google searches for an RDFa vocabulary it calls rich snippets. Yahoo SearchMonkey does something similar. Its vocab is different. Facebook just released yet another RDFa vocabulary it calls the Open Graph Protocol.

I wrote this piece [3] a while back which I thought might illustrate a few relevant and pressing issues for the Web. It generated a good discussion between Cory and Kingsley. And I think it puts slide 72 (FCA) in a Web context. Feel free to leverage the info. I think you'll recognize the triangle.

In terms of reasoning, the OOR project and a migration path to the future. Slide 80 says COLORE and HETs have compatible tool kits and slide 76 says Bremen Ontology Research Group is collaborating with COLORE. Would you, or someone from one of these projects be able to talk more about how the tool kits are compatible or the nature of the collaboration? I understand that HETs is operationalized through a second order polymorphic lambda calculus with type equality conversions based on the Girard-Reynolds isomorphism. Its deductive system, at least in part, relies strongly on intuitionism and the Curry-Howard-Lambek correspondence. That's sounds quite a bit different than FOL.

Slide 81 says "Enable subject-matter experts to review, update, and extend their knowledge bases with little or no assistance from IT specialists." I'm not seeing much evidence that this will ever work. Maybe the SMEs I know aren't very smart. The last time someone said this at work during a BPMN session I asked to meet the SME. Most of our operational managers currently dismiss this out of hand. Can you or someone point to some indication that this CAN happen ?  

BTW - Thought you might like this [5]. Good luck at the conference !

1. http://techpresident.com/blog-entry/tim-berners-lee-and-bag-crisps
2. http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-rdfa-primer/
3. http://bit.ly/c3nxTa
4. http://trac.informatik.uni-bremen.de:8080/hets/wiki/ReleaseNotes
5. http://www.methodeutic.com/

--
Rick

blog: http://phaneron.rickmurphy.org/

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John F. Sowa [mailto:sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 09:50 PM
> To: '[sio-dev] discussion'
> Subject: [sio-dev] Definition of the SIO project
>
> Folks,
>
> Peter had asked me to provide a short summary and definition of the
> SIO project.  Among other things, I was tied up with making slides
> for a 3-hour tutorial, which I'll present at the Semantic Technology
> conference in San Francisco on June 22.
>
> The title of my tutorial is "Integrating Semantic Systems."
> In slides 62 to 81, I summarize and discuss the SIO project:
>
>     http://www.jfsowa.com/talks/iss.pdf
>
> The deadline for sending the slides to the conference organizers
> was last week, but I still have time to revise them and send in
> a new version before the talk on June 22.
>
> I'd also like to discuss them with the full Ontolog Forum and
> the OMG AE group.  But before I discuss them with a wider
> audience, I'd like this group to review slides 62 to 81.
>
> I would also like to propose slide 62 (copy below) as a one-slide
> summary of the SIO project.
>
> Please send any comments, suggestions, objections, or corrections,
> especially on slides 62 to 81.  (Comments on the other slides are
> welcome, but I'd like to focus on the SIO slides with this group.)
>
> John
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> Sharing and Integrating Ontologies
>
> The SIO project for sharing and integrating ontologies was
> started as a community project by the Ontolog Forum.
>
> SIO is a companion to the Open Ontology Repository
> (OOR), which is also sponsored by the Ontolog Forum.
>
> Various participants in the forum have discussed related
> theoretical issues over a period of several years.
>
> Many of them have developed compatible methodologies
> and implemented open-source tools to support them.
>
> Goal:  Collaborate and coordinate the development of those
> tools, theories, and methodologies in support of OOR.
>
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