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From: "MacPherson, Deborah" <dmacpherson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:09:31 -0400
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Thanks!    (01)

DEBORAH MACPHERSON
Specifications and Research    (02)

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Skype debmacp    (04)


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[mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Victor Agroskin
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 10:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Hackathon: BACnet Ontology    (05)

Dear Deborah,    (06)

You can query JORD RDL for all instances of type 
http://rds.posccaesar.org/2008/02/OWL/ISO-15926-2_2003#Scale    (07)

This will return 1353 UOM reference data items currently available in ISO 15926 
reference data library.    (08)

This can be done at JORD endpoint directly http://posccaesar.org/endpoint/    (09)

Or in .15926 Editor environment (download from 
http://techinvestlab.ru/dot15926Editor ) where you can access an endpoint or 
use local copy of a library, instructions are in the documentation.    (010)

Regards,
Victor Agroskin
TechInvestLab.ru    (011)


> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 08:32:46 -0400
> From: "MacPherson, Deborah" <dmacpherson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Hackathon: BACnet Ontology
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> Where does the Units of Measurement Ontology stand currently and has it been 
>used with ISO 15926? There is NO reason to reinvent the wheel as you say.
>
> DEBORAH MACPHERSON
> Specifications and Research
>
> Cannon Design
> 3030 Clarendon Blvd.
> Suite 500
> Arlington, VA 22201
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> Phone: 703.907.2353
> Direct Dial: 2353
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> dmacpherson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmacpherson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cannondesign.com
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> [mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew 
> West
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 7:11 AM
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> Dear Deborah,
> Well if you are trying to exchange measurement data, that is relatively easy, 
>and pointing to parametric design examples as having problems for standards 
>based exchange, therefore meaning that standards based exchange of measurement 
>data is difficult is just plain misleading. You can easily exchange 
>measurement data using ISO 15926 for example, or a number of other standards, 
>usually labelled SCADA (supervisory control and data acquisition). What is not 
>needed is another standard for doing this, there are already too many.
> By the way, measurements look easy from the outside, but once you lift the 
>lid, you find all kinds of interesting things there you can easily get tripped 
>up by ? another reason for not reinventing.
>
> Regards
>
> Matthew West
> Information  Junction
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> On Behalf Of Deborah MacPherson
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> Thanks for the response Matthew. You are probably right on target. The thing 
>is some problems and opportunities should not wait. Creating modular solutions 
>to keep some information in sets as its transferred would help.
>
> Toby and I have been talking about "lighter" versions of our standards that 
>are made for heavy monolithic models. What I like about BACnet as an angle on 
>this is the transactional nature of collecting and reporting temperatures, 
>tasking sensors and so forth that are only one small set of information at a 
>time.
>
> Deborah
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>    (012)

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