Yes, I agree this has to deliver: "some impactful results, which needs to be
pragmatic and useful to the three communities concerned" (01)
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Subject: [ontology-summit] [OT] please stay focused on the
OntologySummit2012 discourse [was - Re: P vs NP and open world principle] (02)
Dear All, (03)
I want to thank John Sowa for having moved this conversation over to the
[ontolog-forum] list, as that is the more appropriate venue for this
particular dialog. (04)
Again, since this [ontology-summit] list is the place for the
OntologySummit2012 discourse, please stay on topic. Before you post, please
ask if your post is contributing to ...
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The principal goal of the summit is to bring together and foster
collaboration between the ontology community, systems community, and
stakeholders of some of the "big systems." Together, the summit participants
will exchange ideas on how ontological analysis and ontology engineering
might make a difference, when applied in these "big systems." ...
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ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2012#nid3098 (05)
Also ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2012#nid309T
... kindly prefix the subject lines for respective conversation threads by
track topics. As someone (believe it was AmandaVizedom) said at a recent
virtual session (which I paraphrase here), "if your have trouble labeling a
post/conversation and group it under one of the track labels, chances are,
it probably doesn't belong here (on this [ontology-summit] list.) (06)
We only have a little more than two months to deliver some impactful
results, which needs to be pragmatic and useful to the three communities
concerned; therefore, please stay focused! (07)
Thanks & regards. =ppy
-- (08)
On Feb 9, 2012 1:17 PM, "Yuriy Milov" <qdone@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> doug:
>
> I have no objections - just want to clarify few points
>
> > There is no reason to represent the "infinite and open world" for
> > any application.
>
> I think it's too strong
>
> For the future quantum computers we possibly will operate with the
> real and actual infinity (non-locality at least) of applications. The
> bio-systems might also have something "non-mechanical" (that cannot be
> represented formally without "denotation" of the infinity as a
> "working detail")
>
> > Note that an NP-hard problem, may, for restricted input be easy to
> > solve rapidly. Such solutions can be used and often are.
>
> It's true. Some "incorrect" heuristics may work better than formally
> correct algorithms but what's behind of the "context" and "heuristics"?
>
> I suspect that the contexts could be (and probably are) the "infinite
> and open worlds", as well as the "heuristics" are sort of the magic
> and miracle real stuff which we want to eliminate from our serious
> daily life - except from the life of the little kids, of course - they
> still need St.Clause :) Should adults research and develope such
> "fairy tails" skills? Or the working heuristics and inventions are
> just inevitable logical sequences of the set of rules, ideas, concepts
> that have to be formally formulated in the ultimate and universal ontology
(the dream and goal of ontologists)?
>
> yuri
>
> > -- doug
> >
> >> Have fun
> >> Yuri
>
>
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