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Re: [ontology-summit] Editorial Issue

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From: Ron Wheeler <rwheeler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:21:52 -0400
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On 19/04/2011 2:42 PM, doug foxvog wrote:
> On Tue, April 19, 2011 13:46, Ron Wheeler said:
>> On 19/04/2011 9:58 AM, Matthew West wrote:
>>> Dear Michael U,
>>>
>>> Two minor points in the following:
>>>
>>> " - Reduced unnecessary complexity  results in fewer conflicts and
>>> overlaps,
>>> and thus fewer primitives.
>>>
>>> - Interoperability and integration among disparate systems and data
>>> (fewer
>>> silos) at less cost and lower development risk "
>>>
>>> 1. First bullet does not read smoothly (to me).
>>>
>>> 2. The first bullet has a full stop at the end, the second does not.
>>>
>>> I suggest:
>>>
>>> " - Reduced unnecessary complexity  resulting in fewer conflicts and
>>> overlaps, and thus fewer primitives.
>> unnecessary seems unnecessary - no one is in favour of unnecessary
>> complexity
> This was discussed at the Summit.  It IS necessary to have "unnecessary"
> since complexity is implicit in the systems that are being ontologized.
"Reduced" implies that some complexity is still there.
If you want to keep unnecessary then use "eliminate" instead of "reduce" 
unless you are advocating keep some reduced amount of "unnecessary 
complexity".    (01)

I hope that this is not unnecessary nitpicking.
I do have the advantage of not being overly involved in the process so I 
am looking at the text with no preconceived ideas about why the words 
were chosen. I am just trying to parse them and figure out what the 
point is from the actual written words.    (02)



> -- doug foxvog
>
>> Not exactly sure how conflicts and overlays relates to fewer primitives
>> It looks like 2 ideas smashed together and perhaps the fewer primitives is
>> the "reduced complexity" rather than a result of it.
>>> - Interoperability and integration among disparate systems and data
>>> (fewer silos) at less cost and lower development risk. "
>> Again 2 ideas wedged into a bullet. If you are talking about keeping
>> "disparate systems" than you can't say "fewer silos" without some
>> explanation.
>>
>> Ron
>>> Regards
>>>
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