Re: [ontology-summit] references to Spatial Ontology work [was - Re: pdf

[Duane Nickull <dnickull@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yes – literalisms make up most of the German language.  Roll + stool = a rolling stool.  Of course, english uses this too however thank god someone invented the “space” character and combined it with a liberal sentence construct mechanism.  I think the German language is an interesting study of inheritance and semantics.  Their use of long words sort of acts like a qualifier for the meaning (adds context).  Some of these get ridiculously long of course.

This is the name of a law that has to do with how beef is labeled.  Imagine getting this at a spelling bee...????

Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz

here it is broken into parts:

[[[Rind]fleisch][[etikettier[ungs]][[[über]wachungs][[[auf]gaben][[[über]trag[ungs]][gesetz]]]]]]]

   beef   meat       label      ing           over  watch           task              over   give ing     law           

"Beef  labeling oversight transfer law"

Lebensversicherung Verkaufsvertreter Vertreter = life insurance sales agent representative.

The literal translations are really funny to North Americans too.  Here is my favorite – the German word for “sex”:

Geschlechtsverkehr

It literally translates into “Gender Traffic”.  If you have a lot of gender traffic I guess you have to go install a maximum speed limit ( Hoechsgeschwindigkeitsbegrenzung)  sign.

;-)

Duane


On 4/10/09 10:45 AM, "MacPherson, Deborah" <dmacpherson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Ist "rollstuhl" = "wheelchair"? 
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> From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Duane Nickull
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 1:23 PM
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> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] references to Spatial Ontology work [was - Re: pdf of Summit presentation]
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> Genau – mit die rollstuhl und alles! Ganz gut!  Ich komme nach Berlin am 13 Juin -> 29 Juin.
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> Tschuss!
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> D
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> On 4/10/09 10:12 AM, "MacPherson, Deborah" <dmacpherson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: MacPherson, Deborah
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 1:07 PM
> To: 'John Bateman'; Deborah MacPherson
> Cc: Peter Yim; Lieberman Joshua; Steve Ray; Michelle Raymond; Rex Brooks; David Coggeshall; Bob Smith
> Subject: RE: pdf of Summit presentation
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> Hi John -
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> I've just been in awe over your slides http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/UpperOntologySummit/UO-Summit-Meeting_20050315/UOS--bateman_20060315.pdf from the Upper Ontology Summit, especially 6, 8, 10, 11, 18, 22 to 25.
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> Would be very interested in continuing the discussion on modularity, especially assisted living issues could involve the healthcare experts and our BIM thought leaders. Please provide more information.
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> Thanks,
>
> Deborah
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bateman [mailto:bateman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 12:21 PM
> To: Deborah MacPherson
> Cc: Peter Yim; MacPherson, Deborah; Lieberman Joshua; Steve Ray; Michelle Raymond; Rex Brooks; David Coggeshall; Bob Smith
> Subject: Re: pdf of Summit presentation
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> By the way Deborah: I think your overheads from the Summit are just great! All I can say is yes, yes and yes.
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> > The issue today is modularity.
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> Very nice to hear that in the ontology-and-standards discussion. We are putting together a small European standards proposal at present precisely to get an expert group together to address certain issues of modularity, methods and best practices for supporting modularity across what we term 'strongly heterogenous domains': it would be good to have your input on that. We're focusing on the Ambient Assisted Living domain as a testbed as here there is also a need to get very diverse devices, building design, user activities and requirements, etc. to be interoperable. So here your point:
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> > Everything seems to be working together fairly well, but Building
> > Information is having interoperability problems.
> > Unlike geospatial data, building data does not have a common point of origin.
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>
> is spot on. This is where we see strong heterogeneity needing to come in.
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> Anyway, just an immediate response,
> Best,
>
> John B.
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