wow - i went offline for a couple of days and missed a LOT of messages. (01)
i would like to support 2 positions:
1 - it would be useful if we had a definition of ontology we could rally
around that is simple enough to be used in broad audiences
2 - the goal of monday is to get a framework for use in describing
ontologies (and that *may* be less controversial than the ontology
definition). (02)
I worked with tom to address the issues that i have found over the last
decade or so with the "specification of a conceptualization" phrase. i
thought it was pretty well addressed at least from the perspective of
the range of questions i have received. i see though that it still
causes significant discussion. (03)
In my introductory talks on ontologies, i have been using a very simple
definition that has been going over well.
I went to this description about 5 years ago so i have tested it for a
while: (04)
"an ontology is a formal description of terms and their inter-relationships" (05)
i think that is about as brief as one can get. (06)
deborah (07)
Peter F Brown wrote:
> I'd buy that as a compact form: brevity and clarity.
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Uschold,
> Michael F
> Sent: 20 April 2007 16:09
> To: Ontology Summit 2007 Forum
> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Ontology Framework Draft
> StatementfortheOntology Summit
>
> How about this:
>
> Alternative:
> "a formal description of terms that represent concepts and
> relationships"
>
> Original
> "a formal descriptions of terms and the relationships between them"
>
>
> This is exactly 6 additional characters.
>
> I welcome any better alternatives that mentions more than just terms.
>
> Mike
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deborah MacPherson [mailto:debmacp@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 4:02 PM
> To: Ontology Summit 2007 Forum
> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Ontology Framework Draft Statement
> fortheOntology Summit
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>
>> "a formal description of terms that represent concepts and
>> relationships in as chosen subject matter of interest"
>>
>
> is too long, too much of a mouthful of too many words.
>
> Debbie
>
> On 4/20/07, Uschold, Michael F <michael.f.uschold@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Its almost good enough... But an ontology is more than just about
>>
> terms.
>
>> How about:
>>
>> "a formal description of terms that represent concepts and
>> relationships in as chosen subject matter of interest"
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Peter F Brown [mailto:peter@xxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 3:08 PM
>> To: Ontology Summit 2007 Forum
>> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Ontology Framework Draft Statement for
>> theOntology Summit
>>
>> I agree: we've worked with the definition "a formal descriptions of
>> terms and the relationships between them" [1] as being good enough to
>> know what we talking about when we're talking about what we're talking
>>
>
>
>> about...and "good enough" should be good enough.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> [1] From 'OASIS Reference Model for Service-Oriented Architecture',
>> p17, see
>> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/19679/soa-rm-cs.pdf
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris
>> Welty
>> Sent: 19 April 2007 20:23
>> To: Ontology Summit 2007 Forum
>> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Ontology Framework Draft Statement for
>> the Ontology Summit
>>
>>
>> Surely after 15 years we can do better than "specification of a
>> conceptualization"? Isn't it time we put that one to rest?
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>> Obrst, Leo J. wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Here is our draft statement about the Ontology Framework. We invite
>>> you to consider and discuss this -- now and in next week's sessions.
>>> We intend this to be an inclusive characterization of what an
>>> ontology
>>>
>>> is. Inclusive: meaning that we invite you to consider where you and
>>> your community is with respect to these dimensions. If you have
>>> concerns or issues, restatements or elaborations, please let us know
>>>
>
>
>>> now and next week. This will shortly be posted on the Framework Wiki
>>>
>> page:
>>
>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_FrameworksF
>> or
>> Consideration.
>>
>>> Thanks much,
>>>
>>> Tom Gruber, Michael Gruninger, Pat Hayes, Deborah McGuinness, Leo
>>> Obrst
>>>
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