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Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontology based conversational interfaces

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From: John F Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 15:36:19 -0400
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Bruce, Ed, and Rich,    (01)

Many years ago, I learned that if some word is a cause of many
confused and confusing arguments, it's a good idea to *banish*
that word from the discussion.    (02)

Bruce
> What is common, what is world?  That, too, is a matter of
> stipulation and agreement.    (03)

Yes, indeed.  For that matter, the *only* precise meaning for
the word is "planet earth".  Everything else is an extended use
or metaphor that varies from one context to another.    (04)

Recommendation:  In every occurrence of that word in this thread,
replace the word 'world' with a word or phrase with a narrower
meaning.  If you mean planet earth, say so.  If you mean
world view (or German Weltanschauung) say so.    (05)

Ed
> U.S. Republicans and Democrats, like the political parties of
> other major “democracies”, must agree on a “common world”
> (universe of discourse) in order to communicate and legislate.    (06)

Politics is an example where a huge number of problems are created
by the choice of words.  All the parties could agree much more
quickly if they avoided words such as 'freedom', 'amnesty',
'religion', 'conservative', 'liberal', 'socialist', 'extremist'...    (07)

Successful politicians are not stupid.  They don't use those words
when they're talking one-to-one with no cameras around.  But as soon
as the cameras are turned on, the discussion turns to mush.    (08)

Rich
> Dan Ariely explains some of the reasons why we see different worlds:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y0w5EJC9o0    (09)

That's a good talk.  But Dan A. does *not* use the word 'world'.
I took some notes, and he uses narrow, precise terms:    (010)

    "How would you design an experiment?"
    "How do you classify experience?"
    "The brain is filtering information in a biased way."    (011)

One of the few instances in which he says "the world" could be
replaced by the phrase "planet earth" without changing the point:    (012)

    "Much of our experience of the world comes from inside our brains."    (013)

Recommendation to Rich:  You have been creating a huge amount of
confusion in this thread by using the word 'world' in a hopelessly
vague way.  If you want to continue discussing the topics in this
thread, please *stop* using that word.    (014)

If you need help, go back to Dan A's talk and take notes on which
words he uses.    (015)

John    (016)

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