Re: [ontolog-forum] Toward Human-Level Artificial Intelligence

[Gary Berg-Cross <gbergcross@xxxxxxxxx>]

JFS

>> But there have been some people who claimed that you need a distinct
>> URI for every sense of every word.

KI

> All we can do is provide unique identifiers that denote entities

> in a given world view (or situation)...

> Basically, as our world view expands we discover new insights etc.

In the digital era people are creating unique resolvable IDs to some data entities/data objects. I think this gets conflated at times which the real world objects that the data is understood to reflect.

 It is possible to grow these sets of digital IDs and make them persistent and label them with metadata such as "polar ice sample 2014). We collect data into data sets, say years 2000-2014 and larger things and may label these and provide IDs but things with similar labels may be data for very different things in the real world.

Scientist know the differences but typically the ID labels do not capture the full meaning as JFS noted before. 

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On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 4/24/14 1:19 AM, John F Sowa wrote:

KI

>That's also true...

I agree with your points, and I'm glad that you agree with me.

But there have been some people who claimed that you need a distinct
URI for every sense of every word.

They are missing the point, since this isn't really possible amongst cognitive beings. In short, that's antithetical to the very notion of "cognitive being" and "context fluidity".

All we can do is provide unique identifiers that denote entities in a given world view (or situation).  IMHO. Ultimately, we can cross reference with entities (denoted using other identifiers) in other world views as one discovers and comprehends those world views. Basically, as our world view expands we discover new insights etc..

  Unfortunately. no annotators
(human or computer) can agree on which URIs to assign.

Naturally.

To achieve a 90% agreement among annotators is unusually high.
That means that a typical page with 300 words would have at least
30 errors -- even if you had professional annotators.

Yep!

John

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