You need to read what he said more
carefully.
He did not say that any language was replaced.
Ron
On 17/12/2013 10:43 AM, Hassan Aït-Kaci wrote:
On 12/17/2013 1:50 PM, Ron Wheeler
wrote:
It seems that you are agreeing
unless the Berber language is written in another character
set.
What???
... besides: yes, Amazigh (Berber, Kabyle) is written in its own
script - Tifinagh (http://www.omniglot.com/writing/tifinagh.htm).
But like any other language, its vocals can also be transcribed in
other scripts (mostly Latin and Arabic, but also Greek). See http://marenostrumarcadia.org/index.php
for the greco-latin transcription of classical texts in Amazigh.
Be that as it may, and irrespective of that, where do you see that
I'm agreeing with John Sowa's statement; viz., "In
fact, the only languages that Arabic replaced ...
includes ... the languages across northern Africa." This
statement concerning my Kabyle culture and language is simply
incorrect, wrong, inaccurate, false, untrue, or any other
qualifier applicable saying that it ain't so!
I grew up with the constant frustration that foreigners were
adamant at convincing us that we were them and not us ... We
learned their languages and cultures (mostly by force) but kept on
with ours, thank you. But if it pleases you to think otherwise
(that the Berber language and culture have been totally replaced
by Arabic), take a trip there; or if you wish to persist, please
be my guest: that won't change who we are and the way we speak and
what we know. I am expressing myself in English because it has
taken over most the world (mostly by force and coercion), in the
same way I had to learn French and Arabic: as foreign
languages.
-hak
Ron
On 17/12/2013 2:28 AM, Hassan Aït-Kaci wrote:
On 12/17/2013 8:04 AM, John F
Sowa wrote:
In fact, the only languages that Arabic replaced belong to the Afro-
Asiatic family. That includes the Semitic languages of the near East
and the languages across northern Africa. The Arabic writing system
was adopted for Turkish, Persian, Urdu, Kurdish, and many other
languages. But Arabic never replaced those languages.
I beg to differ. I am originally from North Africa (Algeria)
and I am a berber (Amazigh) from the Kabylie Region (east of
Algiers). Arabic has definitely not replaced our
language (of Hamitic roots). It is still very well alive,
thank you! Witness to this all the poetry, songs, mythology
and folk tales - not to mention everyday life (including radio
and tv channels). And this, despite years of pro-Arabic
government imposition after the independence from France in
1962. The berber culture and language, being mostly oral, have
survived and thriven through centuries under Islamic hegemony
and 132 years of French presence. Try any Arabic speaker to
understand this: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x342c6_idir-a-vava-inouva_music
...
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