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Re: [ontolog-forum] Data, Silos, Interoperability, and Agility

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From: "Hans Polzer" <hpolzer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 21:35:57 -0400
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Remember that applications are not the only context elements/dimensions to
which data is coupled. Nor is it easy to decouple data from such context
elements. I believe that's the point John Sowa was making earlier in this
thread. And applications/services often include a lot of context information
(like business rules and domain knowledge) that is not explicitly
represented in the data, making correct interpretation of the "naked" data
problematic. I believe that's part of what David Eddy was trying to point
out earlier as well. Silo dimensionality also transcends applications and
data representation and retrieval technology.    (01)

Hans    (02)

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[mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kingsley Idehen
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 8:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Data, Silos, Interoperability, and Agility    (03)

On 9/26/13 6:39 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
> On 9/26/13 4:04 PM, John F Sowa wrote:
>> On 9/26/2013 7:18 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>>> Times have changed because we now have ubiquitous document and data 
>>> networks for the masses.
>> Yes, times have changed.  But the fundamental principles have not.
>
> The fundamental principles have new context.
>
> Data issues are longer nascent and somewhat lost is marketing babble 
> spewed by DBMS vendors. My data and applications that help me work 
> with my data are too distinct things. The need to loosely couple Data 
> and Applications (including DBMS engines) was so clear in the past.    (04)

Meant to say:    (05)

Data issues are *no* longer nascent and somewhat lost is marketing babble
spewed by DBMS vendors. My data and applications that help me work with my
data are too distinct things.    (06)

The need to loosely couple Data and Applications (including DBMS
engines) *wasn't* so clear in the past.    (07)

--     (08)

Regards,    (09)

Kingsley Idehen 
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