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From: "Hans Polzer" <hpolzer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:38:57 -0400
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Thanks, Kingsley. I was missing that context tidbit! :-)     (01)

Hans    (02)

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On 6/18/13 5:01 PM, Hans Polzer wrote:
> Kingsley,
>
> The one thing that strikes me about the Venn diagram is the absence of 
> context and the scope of that context. It's as if none of the three 
> circles have a real-world context and scope within which they are
operative.
>
> I'm not sure how one might show the context dependency using this kind 
> of Venn diagram conceptual analogy. The most appropriate visualization 
> of context and scope is probably itself context/perspective dependent. 
> Part of the issue is that while one could depict the three circles 
> inside a still larger circle labeled "context", with the size of that 
> circle being driven by the scope of the context, it's not clear to me 
> that a single context scope dimensions is appropriate to all three 
> circles, and different context dimensions are likely to be pertinent 
> to each of the circles. The "logic" circle is probably the least 
> context sensitive (but not entirely free of context dependencies), but 
> the other two circles have significant context/scope dependencies, and 
> not all in the same context scope dimensions
> - which is why this is a hard problem to address.
>
> Hans    (04)

Yes.    (05)

The initial venn was really in response to a debate about whether Linked
Data and RDF are loosely or tightly coupled. Thus, I knocked up the diagram
to aid attempts to defend why I claim they are loosely (rather than tightly)
coupled.    (06)

Kingsley
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kingsley 
> Idehen
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 1:23 PM
> To: ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ontolog-forum] How Identifiers, Linked Data, Logic, RDF 
> etc.. are related
>
> All,
>
> A picture speaks a thousand words, here's a venn diagram that 
> illustrates how the following are related:
>
> 1. Identifiers -- entity denotation
> 2. Entity Relationships -- basically statements, claims, or 
> propositions expressing observation(s) using 3-tuple (triple) patterns 
> 3. Predicate Logic
> -- entity relationship semantics.
>
> I've also made the venn diagram click-able so all you have to do is 
> click on a label and it will resolve to relevant material about the 
> subject matter in question.
>
> Naturally, I value insights and suggestions from this community re.
> tweaks and improvements etc..
>
> Links:
>
> 1. http://bit.ly/16EVFVG -- Venn diagram illustrating how Linked Data 
> are RDF are related .
>    (07)


--     (08)

Regards,    (09)

Kingsley Idehen 
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