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Date: | Mon, 18 Mar 2013 22:10:12 +0100 |
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Le lundi 18 mars 2013, Joel Bender <jjb5@xxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit : > Deborah, > > >> I thought about combining with the BACnet-type products but could see how that would be anything new either. So, am not sure where to go with this. What is the objective of a BACnet ontology? The ideal inferences or assertions and over what kinds of data sets? > > The lowest hanging fruit is automated classification and query support. Using BACnet terminology, if I plug all of our device and object definitions into a triple-store, layer on the ontology so things that aren't explicitly stated can be inferred, can I get answers for queries about device capabilities? Can I get a list of all of the objects that are vendor extended versions of standard objects? Can I get a list of all of the devices on a specific network? Where the devices use information from other devices (BACnet is a peer-to-peer protocol) can I get a graph of those relationships? > > I can answer many of these queries now with relational database tables, but for the "next generation" energy management system I'd rather not build the hundreds of SQL tables I would need, along with a disastrous ORM layer, for the many variations of BACnet equipment that we have from many vendors. Rather than build something that no-so-gracefully degrades into a triple-store, start with that and build up. > > The next step is automated validation of a protocol conformance statement for some kind of vendor device. If "Joel's Smart Thermostat" says it conforms to some interoperability specification, then there are services it has to support and there are objects that it has to have. If my conformance statement doesn't have those things, it's is an error. > > Now my EMCS can have a hundred instances of "Joel's Smart Thermostat" in a new building and they will be automagically counted in all of those things that are "Smart". Some of those might be located in labs and some in offices, so the EMCS graph database will have its device information extended with locations, which are in turn classified into room types. Now I can "easily" map out all of the temperatures of the labs. > > The next layer up is the relationship between more complicated systems like a central air handler and the labs/offices it serves, and maybe the offices in some cases aren't BACnet but something else. I still want a formal definition that X is "the space temperature in room 101A" and a way to stay X can be found by reading Y, the "present value" of "analog input 1" of device Y which is measured in "degrees Fahrenheit". I can't begin to describe that relationship without having a very good definition of Y. > > I'm rambling a bit. I have no idea how that might or might not fit in with NAISC, probably not much. > > > Joel > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Message Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/ > Config Subscr: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontolog-forum/ > Unsubscribe: mailto:ontolog-forum-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Shared Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/ > Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/ > To join: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid1J > > _________________________________________________________________ Message Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/ Config Subscr: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontolog-forum/ Unsubscribe: mailto:ontolog-forum-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Shared Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/ Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/ To join: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid1J (01) |
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