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Re: [ontolog-forum] Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis

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From: John F Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 21:28:48 -0500
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Pat, Steven, and Leo,    (01)

Nobody who has studied the issues takes the strong version
of the so-called Sapir-Whorf hypothesis seriously.    (02)

The remaining issues are more about the meaning of the word
'influence' than they are about language or thought.    (03)

SEZ
>> My point being that the habit continues even if language
>> use is disabled temporarily or "hidden." You may think it
>> irrelevant but it is not.    (04)

PH
> Well, I believe the preponderance of evidence is on my side here    (05)

I have no idea what habits are being asserted or denied or what
sides there are to any of these questions.    (06)

Leo
> The usual answer in generative linguistics (to which I subscribe,
> though generally on the categorial grammar side) is that all languages
> enable you to express anything you need to    (07)

And I have no idea what 'need' means.  If your habitual ways of thinking
don't lead to a particular thought, you'll have no need to express it.    (08)

John    (09)

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