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Re: [ontolog-forum] UML and Semantics

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From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 16:35:41 -0500
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On 12/4/12 2:44 PM, John F Sowa wrote:
> Dave, Ed, William, Leo, Kingsley, John B, et al.,
>
> We have a many points of agreement, and most of the debates are
> about details of secondary importance.
>
> Following is a summary of the main issues:
>
>    1. The ultimate source of meaning is the real world and the people
>       who communicate about it -- among themselves and with IT systems.
>
>    2. The AI formalisms have never been popular with mainstream IT,
>       and newer versions based on an uglier syntax are no better.
>
>    3. But diagrams of various kinds have been popular with mainstream IT
>       since the punched card days.
>
>    4. Some version of logic is necessary to define and relate the
>       semantics of the various diagrams and notations to each other
>       and to the languages people read, write, and speak.
>
>    5. Tim B-L's emphasis on diversity, heterogeneity, and interoperability
>       is necessary to support legacy systems, current mainstream IT, and
>       whatever innovations anybody may develop in the future.
>
>    6. Unless we can provide tools, techniques, and interfaces that IT
>       developers can use with their current systems, no amount preaching
>       will convince them that logic and ontology are useful.
>
> My main complaint about the Semantic Web is that it lost sight of these
> issues while trying to enforce compliance with secondary details.  Until
> we address the main issues, it's pointless to standardize the details
> of notations that nobody will adopt.
>
> John
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>    (01)

Amen!    (02)

The secondary details (e.g., formats, syntaxes, and notations) continue 
to distract and ultimately detract for this vision. Every other day 
there's a distracting war brewing that's ultimately centered around 
secondary details.    (03)



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Regards,    (05)

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