Hi Dave
i find that kind of approach very usefull as my experience when
meeting big and middle size companies, i actually meet a culture
based on OOL and the first thing i have to build is to "synchronize"
the cultures (approaches, knowledges). And then each team i meet is
able to understand the essence and how evolve correctly respecting
the project we have to work on. To resume this mail : understand,
synchronize, evolve.
Thank you for this work
Cheers
Ghalem
Le 02/03/2012 17:12, David C. Hay a écrit :
Recently, as part of a longer presentation, I
realized
that a subset of it, concerning terminology in the data modeling
world,
might be useful. So, I packaged it and published it as a 30
minute
PowerPoint presentation on my web site. The short address is
http://tiny.cc/x0fkd
. The idea here was that we data modeling people are quick to
criticize our clients for careless use of language, but we are
just as
bad. Our industry is built around terms like "conceptual
model", "logical model", and the like. Here I am
trying to bring the terms together into some sort of coherent
form.
I welcome any and all responses.
Dave Hay
At 02:37 AM 1/24/2012, you wrote:
The
field of terminology
standardizes terms that are used by large
international organizations -- commercial, scientific, and
political.
I attended one of their conferences about 15 years ago. Their
methods
are very different from anything that is done in ontology, but
some
people participate in both fields.
My morning inbox stuffing had an announcement for TKE 2012, a
conference
on Terminology and Knowledge Engineering. So I did a bit of
browsing
to see what people are doing, and I came across the ISO
standard 704
for "Terminology work - Principles and methods". ISO
requires payment
for standards, but I found a final draft (FDIS) for free:
http://www.ap233.org/ap233-public-information/reference/ISO-FDIS-704-Terminology-Development.pdf
That document has some interesting examples, but there are no
hints
of any formal notations. It shows why the terminology of a
field
is important as a prerequisite for an ontology of that field.
It
also shows why there is a large gap between terminology and
what
the theoreticians say about formal ontology.
But I also noticed that the gap between terminology and what a
very
large number of OWL practitioners do is much, much smaller.
In
fact,
the overwhelming number of OWL "ontologies" published on the
WWW just
take the informal info from a terminology, put angle brackets
around
it, and call it an ontology.
Since I only attended one terminology conference many years
ago, I
would like to ask any Ontolog subscribers who may have more
experience
with the field about their views of the relationship between
terminology
and ontology.
I would also like to ask OWL advocates about those popular
ontologies
whose only "definitions" are English phrases marked as
comments. What,
if anything, do they get from such an ontology that goes
beyond what
they could get from a well-written terminology?
John
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