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Re: [ontolog-forum] Relating and Reconciling Ontologies

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From: Ron Wheeler <rwheeler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 19:46:09 -0400
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On 21/04/2011 3:06 PM, Jack Park wrote:
> To Ron's "just not possible", I would argue "nothin's impossible" but
> rather, highly unlikely.
Yes I read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy too.
A universal ontology might just be created at 40,000 feet above the 
planet as the infinite improbability drive approaches probability of 1 
but will it survive the fall.    (01)

Ron    (02)

> Patrick Durusau and I tackled the "who gets to decide" issue in an
> Ontolog conference call [1] in which we argued for a mapping approach
> that implies that virtually all choices are available, the final
> decision being left up to the user's particular needs.
>
> Jack
> [1] http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_04_27
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Ron Wheeler
> <rwheeler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>> On 21/04/2011 1:36 PM, AzamatAbdoullaev wrote:
> <snip>
>>> Given that, I am convinced that to obtain the General Semantic
>>> Interoperability standard, costing hundreds billions per year, means to
>>> develop a single world reference model, in the first place.
>>> Azamat Abdoullaev
>> Just not possible. Who gets to decide? There are too many stakeholders.
>> Each stakeholder will have trouble giving up a view of the universe that
>> has served their organization for years in order to fix someone else's
>> problem with this view.
>> We have survived an Imperial vs Metric world for 2 centuries with being
>> able to agree on something so clear cut.
>> We just make the conversions when we need to and the rest of the time we
>> pick one.
>> In Canada, we measure in metric but the frequently result is something
>> that makes sense in inches (plywood comes in the metric equivalent of
>> 4x8 feet sheets and no one has any idea about how big that is in metric).
>>
>> I have no expectation that the US Justice Department and the US
>> Treasury are ever going to agree on some definitions of financial
>> transactions.
>> The hierarchy of objects will probably never match and will be a problem
>> for the people who have to define the interoperability rules for
>> companies who need to take their own internal view of the universe and
>> provide views for the external agencies that fit their hierarchies.
>> Try telling the EU or the Chinese that they have adopt the US Treasury's
>> view of the financial world.
>>
>> Ron
>> <snip>
>
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