On 3/30/11 7:40 PM, Todd J Schneider wrote:
> Chris, Leo,
>
> I've started a reply but I won't be able to finish
> before Friday. The basic premise is that as humans
> we don't have a mechanism to (completely) step outside
> of ourselves and the natural languages we use to
> communicate.
>
> Todd
Todd, (01)
Yes, hence the quest for computer aided assistance via Semantically
driven integration of concepts and associated world views (discourse
domains), across the many dimensions that define cognitive human
interaction space. (02)
John F. Sowa's covered this many times over, so my reply is deliberately
succinct :-) (03)
Kingsley
>
>
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> Todd,
>
> I also don't understand what you mean. I do think that natural language
> semantics (and formal language semantics) is well-founded, as I've argued
> here, though it is incomplete or rather, partial.
>
> The formal pragmatics area, for example, is barely touched. Really there
> are only first steps towards a pragmatics of formal languages yet, but
> folks do use pragmas as indicators to compilers about intent. And of
> course agent communication languages like KQML and ACL use speech act
> performatives (and finite states which represent those).
>
> Thanks,
> Leo
>
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> mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christopher
> Menzel
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> On Mar 30, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Todd J Schneider wrote:
>> Ed,
>>
>> "...turtles all the way down..." Exactly. This is an overlooked
>> point (among others) in many of these discussions. Natural
>> language semantics (and natural languages) are not well
>> founded. The application of the notion of interpretation
>> from First Order Logic in these arenas also suffers from
>> this attribute.
> Could you explain what you mean by that?
>
> -chris
>
>
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