"Can
you point me to a ?classification *system*? that is not
human-created?"
At this forum, we have to learn to tell that there are just
ideas and scientific ideas, there are "folk" taxonomies, ontologies,
classifications and real world ontology with genuine taxonomies and actual
classifications.
I am a bit alarmed with so bare constructivist drift on
this thread, when each is free to have his idiosyncratic version of the truth
determined by his individual background, culture, knowledge, and worldview.
All of human history is a sequence of hard attempts
to reach true representations/theoretical models of world's
structures, patterns and laws. The martyrs of science had sacrificed there lives
for the consistent with reality world views we enjoy/capitalize now. The
astronomical facts that the universe is an infinite space/time, governed by the
same physical laws, that all stars are suns having their planetary systems,
cost Jordano Bruno, philosopher, mathematician, and astronomer, his
life by suffering a cruel and unusual punishment, to be burned at the stake
as a heretic (victims took over 2 hours to die). Even "the farther of modern
science", Galileo could not escape the social punishment for the evidence
of the heliocentric model of the solar system, implying that all the planets
exhibit the phases similar to the Moon. After 4 hundred years, many of us still
might be unaware why Venus looks so different :).
In this world, nothing costs so much but REAL
truths/facts/laws/models/theories/classifications.
Azamat Abdoullaev
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Chris:
Can
you point me to a ?classification *system*? that is not
human-created?
Your
comments about different classification systems of modern astronomy would seem
merely to underline my point, surely: they are all the product of human
reasoning backed up, to greater or lesser extents, by observation and
calculation.
I?m
not suggesting that Lakoff settled anything but at least he and Rosch
highlighted and criticised the absence of any serious scientific inquiry into
?classical? classification (folk) theory that Western philosophy has
unquestioningly assumed and taken as axiomatic for more than two millennia
before Wittgenstein started to question it.
Back
to my central and main observation: as all classification systems are the
product of human creativity, they are eminently
copyrightable.
Peter
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Christopher Menzel
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11:33
To: [ontolog-forum]
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum]
Copyright in Taxonomies: Leading case in US law (ADA v. Delta
Dental)
On 10/28/2010 12:55 PM, Peter F
Brown (Pensive) wrote:
> All classification systems are
human-created and none reflect any
> ?natural? objective truth or set of ?facts?.
On the face of it, a
preposterous view -- the classification system of
modern astronomy does not
reflect a more objectively correct view of the
physical universe than the
Ptolemaic view or -- why not? -- the system
of Thales on which everything
is ultimately water? Granted, there are
more sophisticated versions
of the thesis, but even then there is
nothing approaching any sort of
unanimity on the matter.
> Easterbrook obviously
studied
his Lakoff properly.
I guess I missed the memo announcing that Lakoff
had settled the
centuries-old debate between realism and
anti-realism. That said, the
relevance of the debate to ontological
engineering is not at all clear.
But the arguments of Barry Smith and
others show, at the least, that
even that is far from settled.
Chris
Menzel
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