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Re: [ontolog-forum] Language vs Logic

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From: David Eddy <deddy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 10:55:06 -0400
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Dave -    (01)

On Sep 13, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Dave McComb wrote:    (02)

> My take:  I don't think ontologies are of much use on the  
> maintenance of existing systems, they have too much of their own ad  
> hoc ontologies marbled into their schema and riddled through their  
> code.  The same mostly still goes for development of neo-legacy  
> systems.    (03)

I'll go with this wisdom/experience.    (04)

Ontology is wrong tool for the task I'm after.  I had hopes, but they  
were clearly misplaced.    (05)

> you in particular might find this interesting: ZapThink this  
> morning are dismissing Enterprise Architecture Frameworks as being  
> merely ontologies. http://www.zapthink.com/?newsletter    (06)

Ouch!  Lawsuits are NEVER good.  Major bummer.    (07)

FYI... a successful, 30 year-old Zachman Business Systems Plan (aka  
Zachman Framework)    http://www.tdan.com/view-articles/6123    (08)

In 1993 we tried to use the Zachman cell pattern as the front-end  
medium for our naming enforcement tool.  We were quite comfortable  
with the Row 6 naming standards process.  But when we went out  
seeking wisdom for Rows 1 - 5 there was total silence.    (09)

The objective was to provide a means to trace the transformation of  
"social security number" in Row 1 down to "SSN" in a working system  
in Row 6.  Repeat: silence.  TOTAL silence.    (010)

And then the Internet was just coming public... word had it that  
search engines would be so powerful there would be no need for  
"structured names."  Riiiiiiiight    (011)

> I think we're on the verge of a different way of building systems  
> (indeed I'm not convinced that "applications" as we currently  
> conceive of them will survive) and that this new world order of  
> enterprise system will be based at least in part on semantics.    (012)

I certainly see us on a path of assembling applications from bits &  
pieces of logic.  Rather than write a date calculation routine as I  
did in the 1970s, I need to be guided to the corporate date routine  
(very likely NOT the date routine in the library of whatever language  
I'm using).  The semantic challenge here is how to guide people to  
existing, vetted resources.    (013)

Have the SOA registry tools solved that issue?    (014)

David Eddy
deddy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx    (015)

781-455-0949    (016)

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