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From: "sean barker" <sean.barker@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:53:21 +0100
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Mea culpa - in trying to avoid imputing my interpretation to Peirce, I 
underestimated his prescience.    (01)

Sean Barker, Bristol    (02)

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> I have learned to think thrice when I think I have found anything that
> "goes beyond Peirce" along the lines of most subjects he gave much
> thought to, but here is one of the passages that comes to mind in
> discussing the nature of quasi-minds:
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> ry_Driven_Systems#3.1.__Propositional_Calculus
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> The question of "infinite regress" in sign relations -- and/or "infinite
> semiosis" as Eco popularized it -- is very widely misunderstood, but I
> will have to put off further discussion of that until later tonight or
> Monday morning.
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> Jon Awbrey
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> sean barker wrote:
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> > FYI: The UK science magazine, New Scientist (www.newscientist.com)  >
> has an article this week entitle "A Meaningful Meadow" by Liz Else,  >
> (pp. 28-31) on Biosemiotics, a significant chunk of which is devoted  >
> to expounding Peirce's theory of signs.
> >
> > The application of semiotics to, say, inter-celluar signalling
> suggests  > a resolution to the infinite regression of signs implied by
> Peirce's theory.
> > That is, the sequence is terminated where the interpretant sign is
> directly  > used in some deductive mechanism in the interpreter - in the
> case of chemical  > signalling, the sign-vehicle (the chemical) takes
> part in the chemical reaction  > that "is significant to" the
> interpreting mechanism. I believe this goes beyond  > the way Peirce
> would have interpretted his theory, since I think he expected some  >
> sort of "mind" would be the interpreting agent - although would Peirce
> have such  > a mechanistic view of mind that we have today?
> >
> > This rather fits in with my comment (seemingly rarely understood)  >
> that the meaning of language is determined by the behaviour of  > the
> systems that use the language.
> >
> > Sean Barker, Bristol UK
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