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[ontolog-forum] Fwd: owl and scalability

To: "Yefim (Jeff) Zhuk" <Yefim.Zhuk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Ernesto Jimenez-Ruiz <ernesto.jimenez.ruiz@xxxxxxxxx>, ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Bernardo Cuenca Grau <bcuencagrau@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Ian Horrocks <ian.horrocks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:42:13 +0100
Message-id: <2F698AC2-B749-4151-BD56-070F716CC664@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Jeff,    (01)

See forwarded message from Bernardo Cuenca Grau giving details of various 
modularisation tools, including a Protege plug-in. The implementor of these 
tools is Ernesto Jimenez-Ruiz.    (02)

Ian    (03)


Begin forwarded message:    (04)

> From: Bernardo Cuenca Grau <bcuencagrau@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 25 July 2010 12:41:51 GMT+01:00
> To: Ian Horrocks <ian.horrocks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: owl and scalability
> 
> Hi Ian,
> 
> Ernesto has a full implementation of the locality-based module
> extractor that can be used both from command line and from Java. There
> is also a Protege plugin.
> 
> The plugin that combines safety and module extraction is ProSe. The
> plugin and user manual can be downloaded from:
> 
> http://krono.act.uji.es/people/Ernesto/safety-ontology-reuse
> 
> Here are the instructions he sent me for using the module extractor
> directly without Protege:
> 
> ----
> 
> In 
>http://krono.act.uji.es/people/Ernesto/safety-ontology-reuse/localityModuleExtractor.tgz/view
> you can find the locality module extractor (compiled for OWL API 2)
> with some comand line scripts and signature examples to extract from
> GALEN and NCI.
> 
> Basically the extractor has the following functionalities:
> - Command line extractor via the "CreatePhysicalOntologyModule" class
> (see usage in command line)
> 
> - Extraction of modules top/bottom modules via the "ModuleExtractor" class.
>    * Constructor ModuleExtractor(OWLOntology ontology, boolean
> dualConcepts, boolean dualRoles,
>            boolean considerImportsClosure, boolean considerEntityAnnotations)
>        For bottom modules: dual roles and dual conceps =false
>        For top modules: dual roles and dual conceps =true
> 
>    * Method: public OWLOntology
> getLocalityModuleForSignatureGroup(Set<OWLEntity> signature, String
> moduleURIStr)
>        Gets the OWLOntology module for a given signature set
> 
>    * Method public Set<OWLEntity>
> extractModuleEntitiesForGroupSignature(Set<OWLEntity> signature)
>         Gets the set of entities of the module for the given signature set
> 
>    * Methdo public Set<OWLEntity>
> extractModuleEntitiesForEntity(OWLEntity entity)
>         Gets the set of entities of the module for the a signature
> with only one entity
> ----
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bernardo
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Ian Horrocks
> <ian.horrocks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> What is the current state of implementation of modularisation -- is there a 
>Protege plug-in or some such?
>> 
>> Ian
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: "Zhuk, Yefim" <Yefim.Zhuk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date: 24 July 2010 00:16:59 GMT+01:00
>>> To: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>, Ian Horrocks 
><ian.horrocks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "[ontolog-forum]" 
><ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: RE: owl and scalability
>>> 
>>> Ian, Peter,
>>> 
>>> I've read the paper on modularization. The safety idea definitely makes 
>sense to me.
>>> 
>>> In your article several screen shots were taken to illustrate the methods.
>>> 
>>> Was it Protégé or some other tools?
>>> 
>>> Do they implement to some degree these methods or you have to manually 
>massage ontology to make the modules?
>>> 
>>> I wonder if any tools exist today (or almost ready:-)) to implement this or 
>similar methods.
>>> 
>>> Do you have specific plans on such tools?
>>> 
>>> Or maybe you collaborate with some other group, like Stanford U, to 
>implement these ideas? Open source project?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter 
>Yim
>>> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 9:16 AM
>>> To: Ian Horrocks; Zhuk, Yefim; [ontolog-forum]
>>> Subject: Fwd: owl and scalability
>>> 
>>> Thank you, Ian. ... Let's put this conversation onto the discussion
>>> list to share it with the community.
>>> 
>>> Jeff, please check out our membership details (see:
>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid1J ) in case
>>> you aren't already an Ontolog member (and is therefore not subscribed
>>> to the [ontolog-forum] list yet.)
>>> 
>>> Regards.  =ppy
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Ian Horrocks <ian.horrocks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date: Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:56 AM
>>> Subject: Re: owl and scalability
>>> To: "Zhuk, Yefim (Jeff)" <Yefim.Zhuk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Cc: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Quick answer -- if you need more please come along next week.
>>> 
>>> OWL ontologies can be split into multiple files. From a
>>> formal/semantic POV this makes absolutely no difference. Effects on
>>> performance will be very much tool dependent. If you can really
>>> identify a subset of the ontology that is (for example) sufficient to
>>> answer queries at run time, then this may well improve performance
>>> with some tools. Identifying such subsets is highly non-trivial in
>>> general (naive syntactic techniques don't work in general), but there
>>> are now well understood techniques that can achieve semantic
>>> modularisation, and even some tool support -- see, e.g., [1].
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Ian
>>> 
>>> [1] 
>http://www.comlab.ox.ac.uk/people/ian.horrocks/Publications/download/2008/CHKS08a.pdf
>>> ---
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 23 Jul 2010, at 05:01, Peter Yim wrote:
>>>> Hello Jeff,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for the message.
>>>> 
>>>> You are probably aware that Professor Horrocks (who gave today's talk
>>>> on "Scalable Ontology-Based Information Systems") will be championing
>>>> two more sessions (on Thu 2010.07.29 & 2010.08.05, i.e. on the next
>>>> two coming Thursdays) on "OWL 2." The Jul-29 session will cover the
>>>> OWL 2 standard and specifications, and the Aug-5 sessions will be on
>>>> Tools and Applications. He has invited a panel of experts to join him
>>>> at the Aug-5 session too. See:
>>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2010-07/msg00028.html
>>>> 
>>>> I would, therefore, strongly suggest that you come join us at these
>>>> two sessions. There will be plenty of time for discussion, and a lot
>>>> of expertise around. You might bring up your questions and suggested
>>>> approach for discussion then ... your question would be especially
>>>> appropriate for the Aug-5 session.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards.  =ppy
>>>> 
>>>> Peter P. Yim
>>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Zhuk, Yefim <Yefim.Zhuk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>wrote:
>>>>> Hi Peter!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you so much for facilitating this event (7/22, Scalable 
>Ontology-Based
>>>>> Information Systems).
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> A question: OWL can be split into multiple files. What are the best
>>>>> practices to use this feature for better performance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For example, I'd think of taking into a separate file a specific 
>sub-domain
>>>>> that is a focus of run-time query, while keeping the rest in another file
>>>>> and have some pre-compiled (design-time created) things that would help at
>>>>> run-time processing. This balance might vary from task to task.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any practices like this or similar and better?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> This E-Mail has been scanned for viruses.
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dr. Bernardo Cuenca Grau
> Royal Society University Research Fellow
> Computing Laboratory
> University of Oxford
> Wolfson Building
> Parks Road
> OXFORD
> OX1 3QD    (05)


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