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From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 00:14:34 +0000
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There are some people on this list who are rowdy
and I am definitely not one of them.

(unless you d like to point out the rowdy posts, which so far you have not been able to)

The posts leading up to the escalation have been exmined by several people, and other than general discoursiveness or disagreement about the contents (like in all other threads!) , there is really not much to warrant what you say about me under this thread.

 I do however make it a point of putting my point across, when its due.
and that's what I am happy to take full responsibility for, and thats what you are referring to as 'being disruptiv

At times you seem to apply double standards in your moderation (not sure if your realise/agre that's the case, or if it is your precise intent to do so)

Now that you've made it a point to explain that this is *your^ mailing list, and moderate it as you please (ie first amendment does not apply here to some pf us, but applies for others, right?)

a lot of list behaviours are certainly explained, including the inconsistencies in requesting that the charter is respected
by some, and not by others.

I  apologised immediately for the 'thinking loud' tone of my posts, and for posting a link without a commentary

Let me take this chance to reiterater that apology agan

thats where the issue should have ended

I take it you do not see it necessary to mloderate the email below and other similar of the same kind
that would be apprent  examples of rowdy behaviour?

 (the filter preferences  and twitter gadget of a member are hardly a topic sanctioned by the charter)

but you dont seem bothered that much by that (while others may be)

What is hurting the list  is perhaps, among possible other things, the unmoderated tantrums of some members?
the partiality of the arguments imposed?

Also, at times it becomes unclear what exactly is the agenda  (or it get s lost in the traffic)
 (some say this list is about computational ontology only, others say that
ontological discourse in general, and some even say the mission is the repository etc)

It has been suggested that two separate lists, one dedicated to computational ontology alone, may contribute to
make that distinction clearer and maybe  support the level of focus that some members hope for

To claim that the list is losing subcribers because of me is malicious, or at least I appears a bit malicious to me

Should you decide   to 'kick me out',   of course that would be your prerogative, and a
confirmation of your personal preferences and manner you chose to conduct  your home affairs
(which I can only accept and respect)

Let me conclude by saying that, despite everything,  I do appreciate being a member of Ontolog and I am thankful for the opportunity
to listen in, until of course you decide otherwise

I am sure its hard work for you,  especially if the are pscholocial pressures to find a scapegoat for
the list/community problems



On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Pat Hayes <phayes@xxxxxxx> wrote:
FWIW, I have just installed filters which automatically erase any
Forum message authored by  Paola Di Maio, Pavithra or Rob Freeman, or
sent to any of these individuals, all of whom have therefore become
effectively invisible to me. (I might add that these are only the most
recent additions to my de-twittering filter, which has been protecting
me from others for some time now.)

I recommend this simple device to my colleagues, as I find that the
general quality of the forum appears to be greatly improved, and this
is achieved without impinging upon anyone's God-given right to speak
nonsense freely in a public forum.

I do not anticipate missing anything of any lasting importance.

Pat Hayes


Paola Di Maio
“Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
Albert Einstein

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