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Re: [ontolog-forum] Language and logic

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From: "Christopher Spottiswoode" <cms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:23:36 +0200
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David, you observed:    (01)

> As far as I've seen here, there is neither acknowledgement nor 
> interest in this "drift" phenomenon.    (02)

For more than some mere acknowledgement of such issues as semantic 
drift, latterly on Ontolog, and including preoccupation with their IS 
consequences such as "migrate" or "evolve" (with their derivatives), 
you might try googling with each the following 3 strings (the final 2 
words of each search giving the relevant focus):    (03)

"semantic drift" metaset spottiswoode
evol metaset spottiswoode
migrat metaset spottiswoode    (04)

The broader requirement is definitely also almost explicit in the 
picture outlined here:
(where the suffix in the name stands for the paper's title, "Beyond 
Business Objects"), which is a link many of my Ontolog posts have 
provided as background to their message.    (05)

The whole scene is after all implicit in that underlying and 
ever-present urge in philosophy and more specifically ontology, namely 
to find anchoring concepts for addressing the real world of continuous 
process and change.    (06)

The other or social side of the coin is implicit in the present 
Ontolog thread, "Ontologies as social mediators".    (07)

Having said all that, I must admit that there are also contrary 
tendencies on Ontolog, evidenced by occasional sympathies one might 
characterize as Pythagorian, and by expressions such as "carving 
reality at its joints".  But I don't think that their use is unduly 
imprisoning, or necessarily evidence of capture by Scylla the monster 
of oversimplification.  And there is general acceptance that the real 
challenge lies across the strait, at Charybdis the whirlpool of 
complexity, for which, of course, you might try googling on either of 
those Homeric words together with the 2 focusing words I've already 
suggested!    (08)

Christopher     (09)

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