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From: "FERENC KOVACS" <f.kovacs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:25:06 +0100
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BTW
Ravi:
Purna is the Sanskrit name for Whole or Completeness and in Indian Philosophies, it is difficult concept to realize but easier to conceptualize - it is conceived as made of both numerable and innumerable combinations e.g. 1= 1/2+1/2=14+3/4=1/8+1/8+1/4 etc. but the concept of Whole is infinite because you can take whole from the whole and still be left with whole in infinite sense.
 
Which translates into my language and ideas that you have infinity, but it can only be divided into finite parts, and all such divisions always result in one, a whole, infinity again, if you like in a series of recursion. The finite bit is the observer, as it has really got start and end limits and his existence does not compare to the existence of whatever he is in, or whatever is in him, or whatever fills in spacetime and has no problem hence passing through bodies live or dead.
Frank 
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Ferenc
 
Purna is the Sanskrit name for Whole or Completeness and in Indian Philosophies, it is difficult concept to realize but easier to conceptualize - it is conceived as made of both numerable and innumerable combinations e.g. 1= 1/2+1/2=14+3/4=1/8+1/8+1/4 etc. but the concept of Whole is infinite because you can take whole from the whole and still be left with whole in infinite sense.
This is the origin of not only the Whole Numbers but also of Decimals and what is known in the West as Arabic numbers 1-9 as the Arabs learned it (from their East or from Indo-European Sanskrit language?).
In terms of neurology-cognition, it is a very developed state, philosophically.
 
On mundane level show one apple to a patient and they raise one finger in response, two apples and two fingers, etc.
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Thanks.
Ravi
(Dr. Ravi Sharma)
313 204 1740 Mobile
 
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:56 PM, FERENC KOVACS <f.kovacs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thank you Ravi,
What I am expecting to find is that the concept of a whole or one or completeness that must be part of the learning exercise, whether asociated with a short tag or a long strech identifying a chunk of reality.
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Ferenc
Possible neurocognition ides: transliteration, alternate expressions, synonyms, sense change such as see and respond by talk, or text to visual cues - these are some of the neurocognitive possible testing areas. I am not working on these but these are some from old scripts in Upanishads etc that I am learning from.
Implicit is the presence of observers, interpreters when the subject responds or the sensor that measures the response to stimulus (PET Mapping?).
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Thanks.
Ravi
(Dr. Ravi Sharma)
313 204 1740 Mobile

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:33 PM, FERENC KOVACS <f.kovacs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi all,
I think you should have guessed it too. However
It may be time to start cross postings :-))
My question:
Is there a difference in the neurocognitive result of leanring
a) to rende a long line of uttereances later word by word, like  apome, a role, a saga, etc. and
b) to learn any  verbal input with a demand on response that shows understanding and not just echoing thes ame patterns (is that "rote learning"?)
regards
Ferenc  


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