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Re: [ontolog-forum] Semantic Systems

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From: Jawit Kien <jawit.kien@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:17:30 -0500
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AW = Adrian Walker

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:39 PM, John F. Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

AW> Would you include English semantics under "Semantic Systems"?

Unrestricted English semantics is still a research area.  It is
not in the current range of semantic tools that people have
been developing.

AW> If so the paper [1] may be of interest, as would be Attempto
 > and your work in this area.

AW> [1] describes the only online system I know of that integrates
 > the meanings of: English, formal spec for an inference engine,
 > (meta)data, and automatically generated and executed SQL, with
 > English explanations of results.

Those are the kinds of actions that are supported by controlled NLs.
Some of them do indeed generate explanations (i.e., deduction steps)
that are expressed in the same language (CNL) used for input.
You should ask Norbert Fuchs, who ran the recent workshop on CNLs.

But in any case, I have always recommended that you would get more
publicity by advertising it as a CNL.  Making claims that you have
implemented unrestricted English just invites people to dismiss
you as a crank.

I certainly don't want to be negative or disparaging someone's life work,
but up until today, I have felt that Adrian was a crank selling snake oil.
He always seemed to "have a solution" for any problem anyone was trying
to solve, and claimed he could handle "unrestricted" English.  Knowing how
hard this idea of handling natural language is, I basically decided he was confused.

I read through the paper linked above, and with John's assurance that
Adrian's work is worth looking at, I'm going to start working through Adrian's
tutorials at https://www.reengineeringllc.com/IBL_tutorial_part1.html


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