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Re: [ontolog-forum] RDF & RDFS (was... Is there something I missed?)

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From: Mike Bennett <mbennett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:12:26 +0000
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That makes a lot of sense.    (01)

Mike    (02)

Pat Hayes wrote:
>
> On Feb 7, 2009, at 12:29 PM, Matthew West wrote:
>
>> Dear Pat,
>>  
>> OK. So it  looks like we agree after all.
>>  
>> Quicksort. Im quite happy to just say that Quicksort, the algorithm, 
>> is an abstraction, if you prefer that way of talking. We still need a 
>> way to refer to the 'abstract' version of an ontology, if we believe 
>> that such things exist: the thing that stands in the same relation to 
>> a number of formal ontologies that an 'abstract' algorithm stands in 
>> relation to any of its renderings as programs in a formal programming 
>> language. 
>> */ /*
>> */[MW] It seems to me that there are (at least) 3 levels:/*
>> */1.       /**/Some “physical” representation (including actions as 
>> signs here)./*
>> */2.       /**/The content of a physical representation in some 
>> “language”./*
>> */3.       /**/The content of a physical representation independent 
>> of “language”./*
>> */ /*
>> */I agree that we need a way to refer to an abstract version of an 
>> ontology. How about “theory”? The OED has amongst a number of 
>> definitions:/*
>> */ /*
>> */“A scheme or system of ideas or statements held as an explanation 
>> or account of a group of facts or phenomena.”/*
>> */ /*
>> */That gives you program/algorithm and ontology/theory. It also 
>> sounds reasonable to say that an ontology represents a theory in a 
>> language./*
>
> Sounds nice, but (unfortunately?) "theory" has been appropriated long 
> ago by logicians, to refer, ironically, to a set of formal sentences 
> in a logic, ie to a formal ontology, the "program" end of the 
> contrast. I think it would cause more harm than good to try to use it 
> for an explicitly contrasting term. 
>
> How about "conception"? My /conception/ of time is that it is a fourth 
> dimension; others' /conception/ of time is that it is a dynamic 
> property of the ever-changing present. Given such different 
> /conceptions/, its no wonder that we don't come up with compatible 
> /ontologies/. 
>
> This also has the advantage of coming with a useful verb form, to 
> /conceive/ (some topic or area) (in a certain way). Somebody will at 
> some point start making jokes about womb-envy, but we can ignore them.
>
> Comments, anyone? 
>
>
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>>  
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