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Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontological Means for Systems Engineering

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From: paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:36:53 +0000
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Ed    (01)

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Ed Barkmeyer <edbark@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I strongly suggest that we stay carefully on the topic that Andreas
> raised.  'Systems engineeering', as an engineering discipline, is about
> _artificial_ things.  So its definition of 'system' is constrained to
> such things.  While there are certainly "systems" in nature (the
> argument for 'intelligent design'), we don't engineer them, although we
> may analyze them to provide engineering insights. If we waltz off into
> the philosophical question of what a 'system' may be, we have lost sight
> of the objective.
>    (02)

Yes, however, system thinking suggests that any system (ie. artificial
system, IT system etc) functions as
part of other systems  (ie natural or social ecosystems, for example)
thus, although I agree the focus and emphasis of a discussion may have
to be specified,
it may be useful to consider the relationship/dependence between the two.    (03)

An environmental sensor is a kind of system that intefraces with a
natural system, but there are lots of other examples, such as
social networking system must be compatible within social and
organizational systems etc    (04)

PDM    (05)

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