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Re: [ontolog-forum] Curation view of Ontologies

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From: "Biswanath Dutta" <bisu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:43:51 +0530 (IST)
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Ohh, sure, thanks    (01)



> great thanks,
> please do not forget to let us take sight of the paper, at your
> convenience
> cheers
> PDM
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Biswanath Dutta <bisu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yup, already we have presented our work in a Workshop on Ontology
>> (please
>> see the attached file) and we are about to finish our paper on the same
>> detailing the Ranganathan's principle of Faceted classification and how
>> we
>> used here.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bisu (Biswanath)
>>
>>
>>
>> > Any papers we can learn your method from?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 1:19 AM, Biswanath Dutta <
>> bisu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Dear All,
>> >>       What Prof. John has recommended, I do agree.
>> >> I think before I say anything, I should introduce myself (because
>> this
>> >> is
>> >> the first time I am writing to this forum). I am a Senior Research
>> >> Fellow
>> >> of DRTC, ISI (Documentation Research and Training Centre, Indian
>> >> Statistical Institute), Bangalore, India which was established by
>> Prof.
>> >> S.
>> >> R. Ranganathan (the Father of Library Science in India).
>> >>
>> >> We are now actively working on Ontology and faceted classification
>> area.
>> >> As a part of our research work we have developed ontology(s) based
>> upon
>> >> Prof. Ranganathan's Principles and system. Among them one is,
>> >> Institutional Ontology which is capable of giving us quite
>> satisfactory
>> >> results. But still it is not the right time to claim that we have
>> >> reached
>> >> to the end product. We are working. Hope we will be able to come out
>> >> with
>> >> a good result.
>> >>
>> >> With regards,
>> >> Biswanath Dutta
>> >> Documentation Research and Training Centre (DRTC)
>> >> Indian Statistical Institute
>> >> 8th Mile Mysore Road
>> >> R. V. College Post
>> >> Bangalore- 560059
>> >> http://drtc.isibang.ac.in
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Pat and Ken,
>> >> >
>> >> > Ranganathan's system is not an ontology, since it does not
>> >> > contain any axioms.  But it is a very detailed, flexible,
>> >> > and extensible classification system.
>> >> >
>> >> > PC> Do you think that a topic classification system suitable
>> >> >  > for libraries can actually serve to encode information in
>> >> >  > a form suitable for automated reasoning?
>> >> >
>> >> > Any ontology must include a classification system as a subset.
>> >> > If an ontology is going to be usable for the full range of
>> >> > topics that are covered by the WWW, it must include a system
>> >> > of classification as broad as Ragnanathan's.
>> >> >
>> >> > PC> Do you have any examples of how such a classification has
>> >> >  > been used with an automated reasoner?
>> >> >
>> >> > Look at Cyc.  It has a very broad classification system that
>> >> > supports multiple inheritance.  Any ontology that is intended
>> >> > to support interoperability among any range of systems that
>> >> > access and use the WWW, must be as extensible as Cyc and/or
>> >> > Ranganathan's system.  (I'm not recommending either one
>> >> > exactly as is, but I do suggest that we study both.)
>> >> >
>> >> > KL> My thought has always been I build the ontologies to relate
>> >> >  > the various classification facets (or the values applied to
>> >> >  > the facets) without having to assume a governing set of facets
>> >> >  > and values for all uses.
>> >> >
>> >> > There is no reason why you should define more than you need for
>> >> > your application.  But if two or more groups want to make their
>> >> > systems work together, it must be possible to embed all of them
>> >> > within a broader system that can accommodate all the categories
>> >> > of each.  Therefore, it's desirable to have a broader framework
>> >> > in mind, even for a small, narrowly defined project.
>> >> >
>> >> > An important reason for studying a system such as Ranganathan's
>> >> > is that he had spent many years trying to work out categories
>> >> > that can accommodate all the books in all the libraries of India.
>> >> > So he has a system of categories that spans an enormous range,
>> >> > which probably includes a large part of what is being covered
>> >> > by the WWW.
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't recommend that we adopt R's system exactly as is.  But
>> >> > we should consider it or something like it as an example of how
>> >> > to accommodate multiple systems interoperating across the WWW.
>> >> >
>> >> > John
>> >> >
>> >> >
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