> [PDM] I think it would be useful to map the presentations onto the
> framework, ... (01)
> [DMP] It would be very helpful for users to map the presentations onto the
> framework. ... (02)
Worthwhile indeed! Paola, Deborah, and anyone else passionate enough
to step up to the task, please form a project/team around it, and make
it happen. (03)
Among the OntologySummit2007 follow-up initiatives [1], Ken Baclawsaki
is championing a similar exercise for artifacts collected from the
OntologySummit2007_Survey [2] (04)
... some coordination between this potential task team and his, and,
as previously mentioned, to the OntologTaxoThesaurus project work [3],
would probably be very useful. (05)
Please pick (a) a project title, (b) writeup a draft charter (or
mission statement, or list of objectives and goals), (c) pick a
"launch" meeting date/time and call for others to sign up ... ...
guess that should get things going (if the need and passion are
there). (06)
I shall look forward to this project going live! (07)
Thanks & regards. =ppy (08)
P.S. Ref. (09)
[1] (3rd bullet) under:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007#nid11OV (010)
[2] http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_Survey (011)
[3] http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologTaxoThesaurus (012)
-- (013)
On 9/5/07, Deborah MacPherson <debmacp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> It would be very helpful for users to map the presentations onto the
> framework.
>
> Searchers could see where the action is, groups of presentations could be
> lumped together to play as a series for people interested in specific
> dimensions.
>
> Deborah L. MacPherson
> Projects Director, Accuracy&Aesthetics
> Specifier, WDG Architecture PLLC (014)
> On 9/5/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Peter
> >
> > > [ppy] I believe we are doing fine with the informal/organic process
> > > we have now.
> >
> > We are doing great. there s a lot of interesting stoffe there
> >
> > but
> >
> > I am trying to map the content of the presenttions/dpeakers sessions
> > onto our new framework. I cannot easily position them, and cannot
> > identify some of the perspectives (user perspective seems to be
> > missing/ from our presentations?)
> >
> > I think it would be useful to map the presentations onto the
> > framework, there is a lot there
> > but its scattered and unstructured. Btw - are we 'tagging' our
> > content/entires in the wiki?
> >
> > do we hae a list of 'tags' available that we can use to reference the
> > materials, and
> > does this tag structure reflect the framework?
> >
> > just doing a bit of diligence on our presentation library..
> >
> > PDM
> >
> > I don't think anyone has been denied the opportunity to
> > > bring up new ideas so far (although not all ideas get the same level
> > > of community support) because we lack such a guideline.
> > >
> > > > [PDM] A suggestion could be that anyone organizing a talk, would
> > > > make an open invitation
> > > > to others who may want to present around the same topic, as to create
> > > > 'topic clusters'
> > > > and get different perspectives on the same topic ( eating our own
> framework)
> > > > This could be mentioned in the guidelines
> > >
> > > [ppy] I believe our event champions are already doing it. ... Try
> > > recalling what happened with, say, OntologySummit2007, the "Database &
> > > Ontology" mini-series, Duane & Kurt's "Ontology Implementation &
> > > Applications" panel discussions, and so on.
> > >
> > > To get invited, the hope is, one has to be *really* good, and has
> > > something to offer that adds to our collective body of knowledge. As
> > > for "what is *reallyt good*" ... we'll have to entrust that to our
> > > project champions and his/her organizing/program team.
> > >
> > > > [PDM] Great that vendors are not encouraged, but somehow 'selling'
> manages to
> > > > slip in
> > > >
> > > > great work!
> > > > cheers
> > > >
> > > > Paola DM
> > >
> > > [ppy] According to my Mirriam-Webster Dictionary:
> > >
> > > vendor - n. one that vends: seller
> > > vend - vb. sell; esp : to sell as a hawker or peddler
> > >
> > > [Maybe, I should have qualified the "selling" in my earlier message and
> said:
> > >
> > > " .... Selling of commercial products" is probably better done
> > > elsewhere, than over the settings of a purely volunteered (and
> > > community donated) effort that we operate on here."
> > >
> > > Cheers. =ppy
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 9/5/07, Peter P. Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx > wrote:
> > > > > paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx wrote Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:14:31 +0700:
> > > > > > ...[snip]...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [PDM] do we have a formal way to suggesting/voting for sessions?
> how
> > > > > > are these sessions chosen?how do we know how many people are
> > > > > > interested in a topic? could we have a 'call for sessions' where
> people
> > > > > > can submit their talks and then maybe have more than one speaker
> > > > > > present around the same topic, to have a plurality of views and
> enrich
> > > > > > the discourse?
> > > > >
> > > > > For those who are new to the community, our regular weekly
> > > > > conference calls are on Thursdays starting 10:30am PDT / 1:30pm
> > > > > EDT / 6:30pm BST / 7:30pm CEST / 17:30 GMT/UTC (adjusted back to
> > > > > PST & EST when the US gets off daylight saving time.)
> > > > >
> > > > > When we don't have a scheduled events (like an invited talk or
> > > > > panel discussion), we will, by default, use that slot for (what
> > > > > we call) our "regular operations planning and review meeting"
> > > > > where active members of the community get together and review our
> > > > > activities and well being, suggest new ideas, corrective actions,
> > > > > etc. etc. These calls are only announced on the wiki (under "News
> > > > > and Announcements" (in order not to create additional mail
> > > > > traffic), but everyone who cares is welcomed to join in. One can
> > > > > also send in his/her idea(s) for discussion, through the
> > > > > mailing list or the wiki session page, in absentia.
> > > > >
> > > > > Practically all Ontolog initiatives are community driven. The
> > > > > best way to make something happen is to (i) announce the idea,
> > > > > (ii) get enough people to support and idea (and be willing to
> > > > > work on it), (iii) create a project/initiative, form a team,
> > > > > appoint a champion and (iv) then go do it. The champion of an
> > > > > initiative is generally trusted with making the calls and seeing
> > > > > to it that we have a top quality program.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the past, new initiatives, projects, programs, etc. generally
> > > > > come out of these discussions, or from ideas informally brought
> > > > > up in the discussion list. And, without exception, champions of
> > > > > all past initiatives have made open calls to the entire community
> > > > > for participation (as team members, as presenters, etc.)
> > > > >
> > > > > That's the informal way things get done around here. The formal
> > > > > way is documented under:
> > > > >
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid1Y
> ...
> > > > > both should work, but of course, the formal way is normative.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > [PDM] I wonder For example, if vendor a can come up and
> > > > > > sell their stoffe, it would be only fair if vendor b
> > > > > > could do the same... and to balance the vendor perspective,
> > > > > > we could have users, observers, researchers, all providing
> > > > > > their perspective (which now they can do in form of questions
> > > > > > and answers, but it does not get captured as being part of
> > > > > > the topic, merely follow up) just ideas .. cheers, PDM
> > > > >
> > > > > By default we intend to keep our distance from commercial
> > > > > vending, as discussed earlier - see:
> > > > >
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2007-09/msg00031.html#nid02
> > > > >
> > > > > ... commercial products and vending have slightly different
> > > > > objectives from what we are chartered to do. "Selling" is
> > > > > probably better done elsewhere, than over the settings of a
> > > > > purely volunteered (and community donated) effort that we operate
> > > > > on here.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards. =ppy
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter Yim
> > > > > Co-convener, Ontolog
> > > > > --
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