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Re: [ontolog-forum] Current Semantic Web Layer pizza (was ckae)

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From: "Barker, Sean (UK)" <Sean.Barker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 09:48:12 +0100
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> To: Barker, Sean (UK)
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> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Current Semantic Web Layer pizza 
> (was ckae)
> >John
> >
> >     Thanks for your patience. My view, more precisely, is 
> that anything 
> >called semantics must be grounded in pragmatics to make sense.
> BUt that is clearly wrong, since there are semantic theories 
> of wide application which do not refer to pragmatics. I think 
> you state your case too strongly.
> >If semantics has a use, it is in creating systems of terms, and 
> >structuring their differentia.
> ? No, it is is specifying the meanings of formal expressions.    (01)

The problem I have that I can't see "the meaning of formal expressions"
stops being a circular definition until one agrees what effect they have
- or at least, when one does something in the world as a consequence of
these formal expressions. It is interesting (intellectually) to know
that 1 + 1 = 0, but it 
is of practical consequence when I turn lights on and off.    (02)

Sean Barker
Bristol, UK    (03)

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