Gary & All: (01)
In terms of hermeneutics, my intent is be conservative, maybe like a
Bush appointed supreme court justice, in my interpretation. (02)
That being said, COE has proven itself an excellent tool to clearly
reveal the intended, or maybe unintended, meaning which is less readily
available in the tree view of SWOOP. Much of what I saw in the COE page
was a surprise and requires careful evaluation. (03)
So, please assume were all part of a big hermeneutic circle .. (04)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeneutics (05)
Gary Berg-Cross wrote:
> John,
>
>
>>In what way "humbling"?
>
>
> Several things but a core was the feeling I had looking at the large gap
>between Rick's OWL model , as comprehendible in the graphic, and sections of
>the Peirce article on "new list of categories". It did remind me of trying to
>solve one equation made up of 2 unknowns which I take as part of your point-
>
>
>>If you have a problem that you don't fully understand,
>
> > choose a system that you don't fully understand and
> > hope that it will magically solve the problem.
>
> Not surprising, if we think that Peirce is making
>generalizations/conceptualizations about in the years before we had much good
>empirical data on cognition. Seems like we are still a long way from taking
>on such a model and I doubt that we have to, in order to agree on the
>pragmatic role of conceptualization in ontological engineering....part of the
>earlier argument in the discussion group.
>
> But it did raise in my mind anew how challenging it is to clearly document
>ontological analysis apart from the final ontology product - to understand
>how it came about.....We don't quite know what Rick's interpretations were of
>the "terms" in the OWl model. E.g "Interpretant is defined as all of
>(substance, conception, representation can be sign...)
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> Gary Berg-Cross, Ph.D.
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> Gary,
>
> In what way "humbling"?
>
> > Pretty enlightening and humbling to see the categories
> > in this understandable graphic.
>
> OWL is a very simple language, which just represents triples.
> The elements of those triples may be uninterpreted strings or
> pointers to combinations of triples that ultimately reduce to
> uninterpreted strings.
>
> In choosing OWL (and many other languages), people are following
> a time-honored principle that has dominated the choice of computer
> languages and systems for the past 50 years:
>
> If you have a problem that you don't fully understand,
> choose a system that you don't fully understand and
> hope that it will magically solve the problem.
>
> This is called a "hope-based approach". It is the foundation
> for many projects, which I shall not name.
>
> John
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