John, (01)
>In what way "humbling"? (02)
Several things but a core was the feeling I had looking at the large gap
between Rick's OWL model , as comprehendible in the graphic, and sections of
the Peirce article on "new list of categories". It did remind me of trying to
solve one equation made up of 2 unknowns which I take as part of your point- (03)
>If you have a problem that you don't fully understand,
> choose a system that you don't fully understand and
> hope that it will magically solve the problem. (04)
Not surprising, if we think that Peirce is making
generalizations/conceptualizations about in the years before we had much good
empirical data on cognition. Seems like we are still a long way from taking on
such a model and I doubt that we have to, in order to agree on the pragmatic
role of conceptualization in ontological engineering....part of the earlier
argument in the discussion group. (05)
But it did raise in my mind anew how challenging it is to clearly document
ontological analysis apart from the final ontology product - to understand how
it came about.....We don't quite know what Rick's interpretations were of the
"terms" in the OWl model. E.g "Interpretant is defined as all of (substance,
conception, representation can be sign...) (06)
Gary Berg-Cross, Ph.D. (07)
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Editor COE view of a new list of categories (016)
Gary, (017)
In what way "humbling"? (018)
> Pretty enlightening and humbling to see the categories
> in this understandable graphic. (019)
OWL is a very simple language, which just represents triples.
The elements of those triples may be uninterpreted strings or
pointers to combinations of triples that ultimately reduce to
uninterpreted strings. (020)
In choosing OWL (and many other languages), people are following
a time-honored principle that has dominated the choice of computer
languages and systems for the past 50 years: (021)
If you have a problem that you don't fully understand,
choose a system that you don't fully understand and
hope that it will magically solve the problem. (022)
This is called a "hope-based approach". It is the foundation
for many projects, which I shall not name. (023)
John (024)
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