Azamat, Peter and all
last night I listened to John's talk, thanks a lot for that
Then realised that most of the talks also have
an audio, which is great.
I am extremely grateful about this, since it allows me to listen in albeit async. Is there a way of wiping the bleeps off? (small price to pay but a tad annoying)
I will listen to all talks, cause they provide good food for thoughts.
I will send questions on the list -
Couple of questions for John
1)I am generally not a fan of mixing good scientific advancements with proprietary technology, (I would like to see knowledge made public) although I do understand that even great scientists have to make a living (sad as it is).
I would like to understand more about the architecture of your technology. It works using analogy, right? How? I am not expecting you to show us the algorithms, cause this is what you sell, but I would like to understand how such engine is built, the kind of main components and functions, if you could, just at logical level. (even if at the moment you havent assembled it and it lies convenientely scattered so that only you can use it)
2) This is a very trivial remark: I am lecturing HCI to some undergrad, who have limited background and limited skills in english language, and I am trying to find good easy examples to explain reasoning such as induction, abduction, deduction. At times I even feel that I dont understand them so well myself, and get confused.
So when I saw your slides I thought that I am going to show them in class next week,
but I am not sure I concur with your assumption following the induction example
see below
My assumption, following you example 2 would be:
not only birds fly - would I be right? if so, I ll modify the slide and show it confident that I understand all the examples!
thanks
PDM
1. Deduction. Apply a general principle to infer some fact.
Given: Every bird flies. Tweety is a bird.
Infer: Tweety flies.
2. Induction. Assume a general principle that subsumes many facts.
Given: Tweety, Polly, and Hooty are birds. Fred is bat.
Tweety, Polly, and Hooty fly. Fred flies.
Assume: Every bird flies.//PAOLA ASSUMES: NOT ONLY BIRDS FLY
3. Abduction. Guess a new hypothesis that explains some fact.
Given: Every bird flies.
Guess: Tweety is a bird.
On 7/14/07, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear Azamat,
Good idea ... glad you are highlighting that.
I hope we are already doing that ... as everything on these session are openly "published" on our wiki, and everyone has a standing invitation to "discuss" them further (in addition to that discussion we had synchronously during the session.)
Regards. =ppy
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On 7/13/07, Azamat <
abdoul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear Peter,
I do believe that John's and Matthew's talks could collect a huge crowd. But
wouldn't be it more useful to publish and discuss all the interesting
materials of the Ontolog mini-series ''On Database and Ontology'' on the
Ontolog forum to see if the contribution is a really ''key piece to the body
of knowledge on ontology and ontological engineering''.
Regards,
Azamat Abdoullaev
Paphos, Cyprus; Moscow, Russia
http://www.eis.com.cy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter P. Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
To: "[ontolog-forum]" <
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>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 1:21 AM
Subject: [ontolog-forum] Proceedings: "Database & Ontology" mini-series
Session-10 - John Sowa - 12-Jul-2007
> We had, today, Thursday 12-July-2007, a huge crowd at our 10th
> episode of the Ontolog mini-series on "Database and Ontology."
> Co-chairs, Dr. Susie Stephens (Eli Lilly) and Dr. Matthew West
> (Shell International Petroleum Co) presented our invited speaker,
> the renowned Artificial Intelligence Research Scientist, Dr. John
> Sowa, who presented a talk on "Analogical Reasoning With and
> About Databases and Knowledge Bases."
>
> Our deepest appreciations to Dr. Sowa, Dr. West and Dr. Stephens
> for bringing us this brilliant session. Thanks are due, also to
> Arun Majumdar, John's colleague from VivoMind Intelligence, who
> did a lot of the technology implementations described in the
> talk, and who also join us today and contributed his insights.
> And, as always, thanks to all who could join us today; especially
> to those who contribution to the wonderful discussion toward the
> last segment of the session.
>
> Proceedings of the session are captured on our wiki page, at:
>
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2007_07_12
>
> In particular, full audio recording of the session, as well as
> the podcast of it, is now available - see:
>
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2007_07_12#nid12B5
>
> ... This contribution from Dr. Sowa and all present today is
> adding yet another key piece to the body of knowledge on ontology
> and ontological engineering that our community is building
> together. Thanks again, everyone!
>
> Best regards. =ppy
>
>
> P.S. Note that the Ontolog community will be presenting a couple
> of panels next week (Tue Jul-17 & Wed Jul-18) at the
> Collaborative Expedition Workshop #63 (organized by Susan
> Turnbull et al.; to be held at NSF, Arlington, VA, USA). Do join
> us there, either on-site or remotely. See details at:
> http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/TowardsStabilityInInformationSharing_2007_07_17
>
> ... make sure you register for it as described on the session
> page, if you are planning to attend.
>
> Because of the above event, there will be no conference call
> during the regular Thursday time slot next week.
>
> On Thu 26-Jul-2007, Dr. Bob Smith and Dr. Denise Bedford will be
> co-chairing another OntologTaxoThesaurus project workshop during
> the regular time slot. Please mark your calendars now.
>
> P.P.S. Watch our [ontolog-invitation] list for further
> announcements of Ontolog events that may be of interest, or
> browse the listing under the "News & Announcements" section at
> our Ontolog WikiHomePage (at:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidW
) for
> the above and other upcoming events.
>
> An archive of noteworthy past Ontolog events can be found at:
>
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>
> Tx. =ppy
> --
>
>
> ========
> Peter P. Yim wrote Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:20:16 -0700:
> From: "Peter P. Yim" <
peter.yim@xxxxxxxx
>
> To: ontolog-invitation@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-invitation] "Database & Ontology"
> mini-series Session-10
> - John Sowa - 12-Jul-2007
>
>
> Re: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2007_07_12
>
> *REMINDER*
>
> The Ontolog "Database & Ontology" mini-series invited talk by Dr.
> John Sowa (VivoMind Intelligence, Inc.), on "Analogical Reasoning
> With and About Databases and Knowledge Bases" is coming up this
> Thursday 12-July-2007 (starting at 10:30am PDT / 1:30pm EDT /
> 6:30pm BST / 17:30GMT/UTC).
>
> Come join the rest of the Ontolog community at this 10th episode
> of the series, to be co-chaired by Dr. Matthew West (Shell
> International Petroleum Co) and Dr. Susie Stephens (Eli Lilly),
> during which we will be exploring the landscape, issues and
> interactions between databases and ontologies through our invited
> speaker's presentation. Dr. Sowa is one of the most prolific and
> outspoken individuals in the ontology, knowledge representation,
> semantics and artificial intelligence communities, and has helped
> shaped these fields as we know them today with some of his
> brilliantly written work. I'm sure his talk will put a lot of
> things about the subject matter in perspective, and inspire new
> possibilities for the future.
>
> RSVP by e-mailing the sender off-line (if you aren't already an
> Ontolog member, kindly include your name, affiliation and job
> title as well) if you are planning to attend and haven't already
> responded.
>
> We look forward to having you at the session. Please refer to all
> agenda and call-in details on the session page, whose link
> appears at the top of this message.
>
> Regards. =ppy
> --
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Peter P. Yim <
peter.yim@xxxxxxxx
>
> To: ontolog-invitation@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 5:14:33 PM
> Subject: [ontolog-invitation] "Database & Ontology" mini-series -
> 3 upcoming events - Jun-28, Jul-5 & Jul-12 2007
>
>
> ************************ Headlines ************************
>
> Ontolog "Database & Ontology" mini-series, upcoming events over 3
> consecutive Thursday sessions:
>
> *Thu 28 June 2007* - Dr. Souripriya Das and Dr. Melliyal
> Annamalai from Oracle, on "Building Database Infrastructure for
> Managing Semantic Data"
>
> *Thu 05 July 2007* - Mr. Chris Partridge from the BORO Centre,
> UK, on "Data and process revisited: ontology driving a paradigm
> shift in the development of business application systems"
>
> *Thu 12 July 2007* - Dr. John Sowa from VivoMind Intelligence,on
> "Analogical Reasoning With and About Databases and Knowledge Bases"
>
> Register your attendance by emailing <
peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> offline
>
> ******************** Details ************************
>
> Your are cordially invited to join us at the upcoming events of
> the Ontolog "Database and Ontology" mini-series, championed by
> Dr. Matthew West (Shell Petroleum Co.)
>
> The online Ontolog events are open and free of charge. Anyone who
> is interested, or (better still) who may have something to
> contribute, is welcome. Refer to individual event details on
> their respective session pages. The links are given below, where
> you will find session agenda, presentation abstract and
> conference call dial-in and other pertinent details .
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> * Thursday, 28-Jun-2007 - We will be having the 8th Event in the
> "Database And Ontology" Mini-Series - The session will be
> co-chaired by Dr. Matthew West and Dr. Susie Stephens. Dr.
> Souripriya Das and Dr. Melliyal Annamalai from Oracle as their
> invited speakers. They will be presenting on: "Building Database
> Infrastructure for Managing Semantic Data". ... Please refer to
> details at the session wiki page, at:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2007_06_28
>
> * Thursday, 05-Jul-2007 - Dr. Matthew West will be presenting the
> 9th Event in the "Database And Ontology" Mini-Series - Mr. Chris
> Partridge from the BORO Center (UK) will be our invited speaker.
> He will be giving a talk on "Data and process revisited: ontology
> driving a paradigm shift in the development of business
> application systems." ... Please refer to details, closer to the
> time, at the session wiki page, at:
>
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2007_07_05
>
> * Thursday, 12-Jul-2007 - Dr. Matthew West will be presenting the
> 10th Event in the "Database And Ontology" Mini-Series - Dr. John
> Sowa from VivoMind Intelligence will be our invited speaker and
> will be giving a talk on: "Analogical Reasoning With and About
> Databases and Knowledge Bases". Please refer to details at the
> session wiki page, at:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2007_07_12
>
> *RSVP* by by emailing me at <
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> we can prepare enough resources to support everyone. (Kindly
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> member of the Ontolog community.) Before participating, please
> also make sure you are aware of our IPR policy (ref:
>
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid32
).
>
> Regards. =ppy
>
> Peter P. Yim Co-convener, Ontolog
>
> P.S. this new "announcement" format is suggested and designed by
> Dr. Ken Baclawski in an effort to improve communication,
> navigation and help maximize the impact of the message. Thank you
> very much, Ken. =ppy
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