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Re: [ontolog-forum] semantic distance (was: the god of boundary)

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From: paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 12:55:28 +0700
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Yes, me too, very interested    (01)

I see this capability as being promised by 'semantic networks'
to map the relationships between meanings    (02)

cf.
www.jfsowa.com/pubs/semnet.htm    (03)

However, I dont think that 'distance' is in iself central.
Let me explain:
distance is a relative measure (read: distance is relative)
 while I think in the conceptual dimension how far is
one meaning from another is not so important in the physical sense
rather the quality of its relationship    (04)

So I feel the nature of the inquiry in semantic relationships, if this is
what you mean, is more qualitative than quantitative    (05)

I'd love to work more on this too    (06)

Paola Di Maio    (07)



On 2/9/07, Adrian Walker <adriandwalker@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Mike --
>
> You wrote...
>
> The lack of capability of computing the distance between two
> words/phrases/ideas still cripples all current semantic tools.
>
> The replacement for ontology will possess, as its major
>  term/characteristic, the ability to compute semantic distances.
>
> I'd be interested in your thoughts please about the semantic distance
> proposal in [1].
>
> The basic idea is that, in walking an abstraction hierarchy up from A and
> back down to B, the semantic distance is measured by ambiguity, that is, the
> number of wrong turns you could make along the way.
>
> Thanks!                                -- Adrian
>
> [1]
> 
>www.reengineeringllc.com/Internet_Business_Logic_and_Semantic_Web_Presentation.pdf
> , slides 40-50
>
> Internet Business Logic (R)
> A Wiki for Executable Open Vocabulary English
> Online at www.reengineeringllc.com
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>
>
> On 2/8/07, Mike Brenner <mikeb@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:
> > Bob Smith wrote:
> > > Is this all about the old topic called "Semantic Distance" we played
> > > with in the late 1960's and early 1970's, but now with a better GIS-OGC
> > > sense of "Distance"?
> >
> >
> > The lack of capability of computing the distance between two
> > words/phrases/ideas still cripples all current semantic tools.
> >
> > The replacement for ontology will possess, as its major
> > term/characteristic, the ability to compute semantic distances.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
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