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Re: [ontolog-forum] Invoice Concept Wiki Page

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From: "Peter P. Yim" <yimpp@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:41:06 -0700
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Further ...    (01)

How about using the wiki more as a tool to develop the "informal 
ontology" among the community, as a precursor to the eventual 
formalization.    (02)

We can use the wiki to help capture input, on particularly crucial or 
problematic concepts (not meant to be exhaustive or complete) from 
any/multiple participants on:    (03)

(a) related concepts    (04)

(b) pertinent axioms    (05)

(c) drafts (and multiple proposals) to statements and documentation    (06)

It provides the "shared display" that may help bring convergence 
(after a possible divergent start).    (07)

... more thoughts?    (08)

--    (09)

Peter P. Yim wrote Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:52:40 -0700:
> Adam,
> I'm impressed with your browser. It's wonderful.
> I wasn't able to open your <sumo-1.36classes-Chinese.pdf> file ... 
> (maybe because I don't have a Chinese-capable acrobat reader.)
> Kurt and I have already established that we shouldn't use the wiki to 
> capture/represent any hierarchical structures; and decided that we 
> should leverage its capabilities in:
> (a) hyperlinking, and
> (b) ease-of-collaborative-editing
> Looks like, your browser is doing a much better job with (a). Let us go 
> back to the drawing board and see/justify if and how we should employ 
> the wiki to advance our cause. ... Comments, suggestions solicited 
> (especially from those who advocated its use earlier.)
> Regards,
> --     (010)

> Adam Pease wrote Tue, 15 Jul 2003 07:43:11 -0700:
>> Kurt,
>>   We'll ultimately need the functionality of an ontology browser.  Why 
>> not run an existing browser and then we'll have hyperlinked listings 
>> of axioms and a hierarchy view already?  You can get a free web-based 
>> browser that's easy to install from 
>> You can see it running live at <http://virtual.cvut.cz/kifb/en/>.  
>> That browser also addresses the multiple language presentation issue.  
>> It already handles a German presentation.  There's a Chinese version 
>> of the SUMO hierarchy on line at 
>> <http://ontology.teknowledge.com:8080/rsigma/sumo-1.36classes-Chinese.pdf> 
>>   As far as the naming convention, SUMO uses InterCaps.
>> Adam
> ---    (011)

>> At 11:41 PM 7/14/2003 -0700, Kurt Conrad wrote:
>>> All,
>>> Peter and I set up the Invoice concept Wiki page.  It can be found at
>>>     http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UblOntology/Invoice
>>> The approach that we took was to first consolidate the various 
>>> definitions of Invoice that have been passed around.  Once we have 
>>> settled on the "official" Ontolog definition for invoice, we expect 
>>> that the material copied from forum postings can be removed.
>>> We thought about trying to reflect some sort of structure (e.g., 
>>> class hierarchy) either on the concept page or across concept pages.  
>>> This proved to be problematic for a number of reasons.  As a result, 
>>> the Wiki page includes a Related Concepts section, but the concepts 
>>> are only listed without any regard to the ways that they are related.
>>> As we populated the Related Concepts section with examples, we 
>>> identified a number of issues which should be addressed by the team 
>>> in the near term.  The most critical ones are:
>>> 1) Determining the naming conventions that we will use for the 
>>> concepts.  A number of alternatives are listed on the Wiki page.
>>> 2) Ensuring that the concepts that we are defining map cleanly to the 
>>> concepts identified by the UBL committee.  Toward this end, I 
>>> populated the Related Concepts section with the concepts listed in 
>>> the appropriate version 0.7 analysis spreadsheet.
>>> A Specifications has also been provided.  Although it isn't populated 
>>> at this time, we expect it to contain (or link) to matching 
>>> representations (Protoge, KIF, XML Schema, etc.).
>>> Please review this page with an eye to using the resulting page 
>>> structure as a model for "all" concept pages.
>>> /s/ kwc 2003.07.14 23:41
>>>    (012)

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