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Re: [ontolog-forum] Please use "purple numbers" [was UBL Process and Pro

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From: "Peter P. Yim" <yimpp@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 06:38:13 -0800
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Thank you, Kurt, for making the succinct summary of our position, and 
for outlining our possible next steps.    (01)

All,    (02)

1. Kurt, here, has also made a good demo of the use of the "purple 
numbers" that we feature in the archived messages and the wiki. This 
allows one to link back to the original message, in context, when one 
cites a point that was made earlier.    (03)

2. A good way to use "purple numbers" is:    (04)

(a) go to our message archive -- a link to the message archive is 
generally provided at the bottom of each message (unless the sender 
used HTML mail, then we don't have it, nor purple numbers any more -- 
that's something we need to fix. Where we don't have the fine grain 
linking, I guess we'll have to settle with making reference to the 
entire message for now.)    (05)

(b) when you look at the archived message through your browser, you 
will notice that, at the end of each paragraph (as delimited by a 
blank line) a faint purple number is there. It carries the "nodeID" 
information of that node (segment of text in relation to the html page 
that contains it) and provides the uri for people to get back to that 
node.    (06)

(c) you need to copy the link location -- on netscape and mozilla, 
it's right-mouse-click and then select "copy link location"; on MS-IE, 
it's right-mouse-click and then select "copy shortcut". With that, you 
have the link information in your clipboard.    (07)

(d) now, paste that link, as appropriate, to the message or document 
you are composing.    (08)

3. Since we are dealing with very complex issues here, citing the 
reference to the original passage will definitely help. And, the use 
becomes much more effective when more and more people make use of it 
(somewhat analogous to our phones, or email.)    (09)

4. As an example, I will try to refactor Kurt's cited section here as 
a demo:    (010)

Process and Project Management    (011)

* Collaborative work environment options [Peter Yim] 
<http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2003-03/msg00004.html#nid03>    (012)

* Need: Someone who has working proficiency with Protégé and is
willing to provide some working guidance/leadership [Peter Yim] 
<http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2003-03/msg00004.html#nid08>    (013)

** Response: I have a working proficiency and am willing to provide
Protégé guidance as best as I can. Start by reviewing
http://protege.stanford.edu/publications/ontology_development/ontology101.html     (014)

[Mike Daconta] 
<http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2003-03/msg00012.html>    (015)

* Planning/tasking session at the beginning to develop some goals for
the collaboration, etc. [Leo Obrst] 
<http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2003-03/msg00007.html#nid01>    (016)

* Agreement on a firm set of rules as to how controversies are to be
decided, and a set of deadlines as to when particular phases of the
effort should be completed [Patrick Cassidy] 
<http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2003-03/msg00015.html#nid01>    (017)

* Role: UBL consultant to the project [Tim McGrath] 
<http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2003-03/msg00032.html#nid02>    (018)

* Develop some concrete goals for the utility of the ontology beyond
the development of an accurate model [Mike Daconta] 
<http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2003-03/msg00001.html>    (019)

* Consider following the simple ontology development simple process
outlined in the ontology101.html document [Mike Daconta] 
<http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2003-03/msg00012.html>    (020)

* Define some use-cases for the ontology [Mike Daconta] 
<http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2003-03/msg00001.html>    (021)

* Translation/refinement of UBL models [Mike Daconta,  Dean Black,
Patrick Cassidy, Leo Obrst] <thread starting at 
http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2003-03/msg00033.html>    (022)

* Guarino and Welty's OntoClean methodology (now merged with
Methontology) [Leo Obrst] 
<http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2003-03/msg00041.html#nid01>    (023)

* NexistWiki [Jack Park] 
//    (024)

5. Try hitting a few of the links above, and, try citing a reference 
this way just to test drive it.    (025)

6. May I suggest that we all try to use it, whenever it makes sense. I 
would say, especially when the context in crucial, or the original 
message contains details that should be referenced. Obviously, when 
brought back to the original archived message (through the cited 
link), one could continue to navigate up and down the message thread 
as well (see bottom of an archived message). I know this is not for 
everyone. But, if you do see a value in the process, please support 
it. Otherwise, don't worry about it.    (026)

Have fun!
-ppy    (027)

P.S. If you can configure you mail client to post "text-only" messages 
to this forum, please do so. Set the text to wrap at 70 characters 
too, while you are at it.  Tx. -ppy
--    (028)

Kurt Conrad wrote Thu, 06 Mar 2003 23:54:09 -0800:
> All,
> Please respond to this thread with process and project management 
> options for the UBL Ontology Project.
> For reference purposes, a summary of the ideas which have already been 
> raised in some form can be found at:
>    http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2003-03/msg00045.html#nid025
> /s/ kwc 2003.03.06 23:53    (029)

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