> [Bob] Do you see a subsequent THEME around
> Deployment/Implementation of SOA-Ontology
> problems in high profile organizations? (01)
That, obviously, is consistent with the Ontolog charter. Kurt and
Duane is already running a discussion series around Ontology
Applications & Implementations ... and, of course, what Duane &
Rex is working on now is already the 3rd event around the SOA
theme -- our first two were Duane's 2005.02.17 SOA-RM talk, and
BillMcCarthy's (which was also prompted by Steve Ray/NIST)
2005.06.30 "Ontological Implications of Service Oriented
Architecture" discussion session. (02)
Therefore, the short answer is "Sure!" (we're already at it ...
the rest are details which we can all work at, and (possibly) the
upcoming Duane & Rex session can lead us onto it. (03)
Cheers. =ppy
-- (04)
Bob Smith wrote Mon, 22 May 2006 07:34:51 -0700:
> Hi,
>
> My preference is (A) 2006_8_10 for SOA and 2006_8_31 for Emergency Response
> Because there is a chance that we will be in transit to the east coast on
> (B) time schedule.
>
> Rex raised some interesting points about the relationships between SOA and
> Ontology-based federated responses to Emergency situations. He also raised
> the question of how broad is the Community interest in Health Care areas of
> Ontology applications.
>
> So, in this context, Peter has in the very recent past created a unifying
> THEME for a series of Ontolog Events (i.e. Ontologizing Ontolog's BoK).
>
> Do you see a subsequent THEME around Deployment/Implementation of
> SOA-Ontology problems in high profile organizations?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob (05)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter P. Yim [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 6:29 AM
> To: Rex Brooks; Bob Smith; Duane Nickull
> Cc: '[ontolog-admin]'
> Subject: Re: Ontolog Talks and Discussion Schedule - Jun/July-2006
>
> All,
>
> Thank you, Rex, for the detailed response.
>
> > [Rex] I vote for 2006_8_10 for SOA and 2006_9_7 for > Emergency
> Response. However, I would > MUCH Prefer 2006_8_10 for SOA and 2006_8_31
> for > Emergency Response.
>
> [ppy] I am fine with either option. That gives us a good 're-starter' to
> poll everyone with ...
>
> Bob and Duane ... please indicate your (a) feasibility, and (b) preference
> with Rex's two stated options (propose more if neither would work) shown
> below:
>
> (A) 2006_8_10 for SOA and 2006_8_31 for Emergency Response
>
> (B) 2006_8_10 for SOA and 2006_9_7 for Emergency Response
>
> Any other comments welcomed (Kurt, Leo, ...)!
>
> Thanks & regards. =ppy
> --
>
>
> Rex Brooks wrote Sun, 21 May 2006 16:31:07 -0700:
>> Bob, Peter, Duane,
>>
>> Responses inline:
>>
>>> Rex, Bob & Duane,
>>>
>>> What we have now on the planner, is:
>>>
>>> # Ontolog Scheduled Discussion - Ontologies in Emergency Response
>>> Applications (Moderators: RexBrooks & BobSmith) - Thursday
>>> ConferenceCall_2006_08_10
>>>
>>> # Ontolog Scheduled Discussion - Ontologies and Service Oriented
>>> Architecture (Moderators: DuaneNickull & RexBrooks) - Thursday
>>> ConferenceCall_2006_08_24
>>>
>>> [ref:
>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-planning/Ontolog_Event_Plan
>>> _2006_20060309m.doc
>>> &
>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?MeetingsCalls#nidMF6 ]
>>>
>>> Question: Do we really want to schedule these two discussions so
>>> close to each other?
>> No. Unless we can specifically relate Emergency Response Applications
>> to Ontologies and SOA. I am doing exactly that as part of the SOA for
>> E-Government Conference Tuesday and Wednesday of this week, so it is
>> possible. I would not mind expanding the Emergency Response topic to
>> include SOA in specifically relating Registries, Emergency Alerting,
>> Health Informatics and Geospatial Services. We could invite Farrukh
>> and Carl Mattocks for registry-specific topics and perhaps one or two
>> people from Department of Homeland Security Disaster Management
>> Services, such as Gary Ham of Battelle who rides herd on Disaster
>> Management Inteoperability Services' OPEN API architecture which
>> implements CAP and EDXL. However the Cons for this approach is that
>> the focus is narrow and the audience might conclude that this SOA with
>> Ontologies are only good for this small intersection.
>>
>>> o Pros: (a) we can dig deeper into the subject matter (especially
>>> where they overlap); (b) we can have these sessions leverage on each
>>> other get some synergy from having two (related and continuous)
>>> sessions rather than just one, and (c) this might provide a better
>>> draw for participants
>> Agreed. It would also be convenient for me.
>>
>>> o Cons: (a) this demands a lot more of the organizers within a short
>>> time; (b) our nominal plan is to only have one invited speaker and
>>> one discussion session every month (and I was actually we can return
>>> to that after the F2F), and (c) then, we might lose participants
>>> because we are scheduling too many events.
>>>
>>> The three of you should make the call. Please let me know:
>>>
>>> (i) do you want to keep the session order (SOA after EmergencyResp)
>>> or would you rather flip it around (and have EmergencyResp after the
>>> SOA discussion, which I feel, makes more sense, but that's only a
>>> personal
>>> opinion.)
>> I would switch it around so that SOA sets up Emergency Response,
>> since, then all the various services combined in Emergency Response is
>> easier to understand as a subset of SOA.
>>
>>> (ii) do you still want to keep the two dates as stated above, or
>>> would you rather shift one of them into September 2006.
>> For me that just makes September more difficult since we have an
>> Emergency Response Summit in Huntsville, Alabama or Atlanta, Georgia
>> around September 22-23. It is an OASIS Interop Demo and it leads
>> directly into the combined OASIS-ITU Emergency Alerting event October
>> 19- 20 in Geneva.
>>
>>> (iii) If the latter, which one would we want to feature in September,
>>> and please pick a date (Thursday, preferably) now.
>> I vote for 2006_8_10 for SOA and 2006_9_7 for Emergency Response.
>> However, I would MUCH Prefer 2006_8_10 for SOA and 2006_8_31 for
>> Emergency Response.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rex
>>
>>> Feel free to continue the e-mail discussion before deliberating.
>>>
>>> Let's try to lock in the dates soon (rather than later) so that
>>> things can start rolling.
>>>
>>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>>> --
>
>
>>> Peter P. Yim wrote Thu, 18 May 2006 18:48:58 -0700:
>>>> Rex & Bob,
>>>>
>>>> Thu 2006.08.10 it will be for the "Ontology Applications in
>>>> Emergency Response" Panel Discussion session.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. =ppy
>>>> --
>
>
>>>> Rex Brooks wrote Thu, 18 May 2006 17:57:09 -0700:
>>>>> Peter, Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we should stay with the revised date of 2006.8.10. I think
>>>>> we can do a better job of it then.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Rex
>
>
>>>>> At 4:48 PM -0700 5/18/06, Bob Smith wrote:
>>>>>> My Day Stretcher yields at once to Rex's Day Stretcher...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Later is often preferred to Earlier...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob
>
>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Peter P. Yim [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxx]
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 4:02 PM
>>>>>> To: West, Matthew R SIPC-DFD/321; Michael Maximilien; Conor Shankey
>>>>>> Cc: [ontolog-admin]; Michael Maximilien; Timothy Redmond; Pat
>>>>>> Cassidy; Bob
>>>>>> Smith; Kurt Conrad; Rex Brooks; Denise Bedford
>>>>>> Subject: Ontolog Talks and Discussion Schedule - Jun/July-2006
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Further to our discussion this morning (ref:
>>>>>>
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_05_18#nidN8V
>>>>>> )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have just spoken to Natasha and concluded that we will have to do
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> the "Ontology Development on Protege" talk for this series (as they
>>>>>> have a
>>>>>> mission critical task at hand that isn't delivered until 6/15~20, and
>>>>>> therefore Natasha doesn't think they can put together the talk we
>>>>>> would want
>>>>>> for 6/15 or 22).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As such, the schedule now reads:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # 2006.06.01 - Matthew West - Application Integration / ISO 18876
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # 2006.06.08 - no (special) event
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # 2006.06.15 - Moderators: EMichaelMaximilien / ConorShankey -
>>>>>> Ontologizing
>>>>>> the Ontolog Body of Knowledge, Discussion Session-2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # 2006.06.22 - ** (see below)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # 2006.05.29 - Timothy Redmond - Protege architecture & API
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # 2006.07.06 - no (special) event
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # 2006.07.13 - Pat Cassidy - From Controlled Vocabulary to Formal
>>>>>> Ontology
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # 2006.07.23 - Ontolog F2F workshop, Organizers: BobSmith,
>>>>>> KurtConrad &
>>>>>> RexBrooks - Natural, Semi-Formal, and Formal
>>>>>> Ontologies: Bridging the Layers, Limits, and Lacunas
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Remarks:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (a) the 2006.06.22 date is now "available" again ...
>>>>>> ** Rex & Bob, your call to either continue the "Ontology
>>>>>> Applications in
>>>>>> Emergency Response" Panel Discussion on that date as originally
>>>>>> planned, or
>>>>>> you may opt to roll that one out on the later 2006.08.10 date (as we
>>>>>> discussed during today's call.) Please advise your disposition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (b) except for the 7/23/06 F2F, which will be a full-day event at
>>>>>> Stanford,
>>>>>> CA, USA, all sessions are scheduled above are 2-hour virtual sessions
>>>>>> starting at: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT / 17:30 UTC on the
>>>>>> respective dates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All: please acknowledge and advise immediately if you still want
>>>>>> any part of
>>>>>> the above schedule modified. We need to tie down all the dates before
>>>>>> end-of-day tomorrow. I'll follow-up with necessary administrivia
>>>>>> after that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>>>>>> --
>
>
>
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