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To: "Peter P. Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>, Rex Brooks <rexb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Bob Smith <Bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Duane Nickull <dnickull@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "'[ontolog-admin]'" <ontolog-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Rex Brooks <rexb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 16:31:07 -0700
Message-id: <a0623090fc096a8ae603a@[67.101.211.142]>
Bob, Peter, Duane,    (01)

Responses inline:    (02)

>Rex, Bob & Duane,
>
>What we have now on the planner, is:
>
># Ontolog Scheduled Discussion - Ontologies in Emergency Response 
>Applications (Moderators: RexBrooks & BobSmith) - Thursday 
>ConferenceCall_2006_08_10
>
># Ontolog Scheduled Discussion - Ontologies and Service Oriented 
>Architecture (Moderators: DuaneNickull & RexBrooks) - Thursday 
>ConferenceCall_2006_08_24
>
>[ref: 
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-planning/Ontolog_Event_Plan_2006_20060309m.doc
> 
>&
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?MeetingsCalls#nidMF6 ]
>
>Question: Do we really want to schedule these two discussions so 
>close to each other?    (03)

No. Unless we can specifically relate Emergency Response Applications 
to Ontologies and SOA. I am doing exactly that as part of the SOA for 
E-Government Conference Tuesday and Wednesday of this week, so it is 
possible. I would not mind expanding the Emergency Response topic to 
include SOA in specifically relating Registries, Emergency Alerting, 
Health Informatics and Geospatial Services. We could invite Farrukh 
and Carl Mattocks for registry-specific topics and perhaps one or two 
people from Department of Homeland Security Disaster Management 
Services, such as Gary Ham of Battelle who rides herd on Disaster 
Management Inteoperability Services' OPEN API architecture which 
implements CAP and EDXL. However the Cons for this approach is that 
the focus is narrow and the audience might conclude that this SOA 
with Ontologies are only good for this small intersection.    (04)

>o Pros: (a) we can dig deeper into the subject matter (especially 
>where they overlap); (b) we can have these sessions leverage on each 
>other get some synergy from having two (related and continuous) 
>sessions rather than just one, and (c) this might provide a better 
>draw for participants    (05)

Agreed. It would also be convenient for me.    (06)

>o Cons: (a) this demands a lot more of the organizers within a short 
>time; (b) our nominal plan is to only have one invited speaker and 
>one discussion session every month (and I was actually we can return 
>to that after the F2F), and (c) then, we might lose participants 
>because we are scheduling too many events.
>
>The three of you should make the call. Please let me know:
>
>(i) do you want to keep the session order (SOA after EmergencyResp) 
>or would you rather flip it around (and have EmergencyResp after the 
>SOA discussion, which I feel, makes more sense, but that's only a 
>personal opinion.)    (07)

I would switch it around so that SOA sets up Emergency Response, 
since, then all the various services combined in Emergency Response 
is easier to understand as a subset of SOA.    (08)

>(ii) do you still want to keep the two dates as stated above, or 
>would you rather shift one of them into September 2006.    (09)

For me that just makes September more difficult since we have an 
Emergency Response Summit in Huntsville, Alabama or Atlanta, Georgia 
around September 22-23. It is an OASIS Interop Demo and it leads 
directly into the combined OASIS-ITU Emergency Alerting event October 
19- 20 in Geneva.    (010)

>(iii) If the latter, which one would we want to feature in 
>September, and please pick a date (Thursday, preferably) now.    (011)

I vote for 2006_8_10 for SOA and 2006_9_7 for Emergency Response. 
However, I would MUCH Prefer 2006_8_10 for SOA and 2006_8_31 for 
Emergency Response.    (012)

Regards,
Rex    (013)

>Feel free to continue the e-mail discussion before deliberating.
>
>Let's try to lock in the dates soon (rather than later) so that 
>things can start rolling.
>
>Thanks & regards.  =ppy
>--
>
>
>Peter P. Yim wrote Thu, 18 May 2006 18:48:58 -0700:
>>Rex & Bob,
>>
>>Thu 2006.08.10 it will be for the "Ontology Applications in
>>Emergency Response" Panel Discussion session.
>>
>>Thanks.  =ppy
>>--
>
>
>>Rex Brooks wrote Thu, 18 May 2006 17:57:09 -0700:
>>>Peter, Everyone,
>>>
>>>I think we should stay with the revised date of  2006.8.10. I 
>>>think we can do a better job of it then.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Rex
>
>
>>>At 4:48 PM -0700 5/18/06, Bob Smith wrote:
>>>>My Day Stretcher yields at once to Rex's Day Stretcher...
>>>>
>>>>(Later is often preferred to Earlier...)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>Bob
>
>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Peter P. Yim [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxx]
>>>>Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 4:02 PM
>>>>To: West, Matthew R SIPC-DFD/321; Michael Maximilien; Conor Shankey
>>>>Cc: [ontolog-admin]; Michael Maximilien; Timothy Redmond; Pat Cassidy; Bob
>>>>Smith; Kurt Conrad; Rex Brooks; Denise Bedford
>>>>Subject: Ontolog Talks and Discussion Schedule - Jun/July-2006
>>>>
>>>>Folks,
>>>>
>>>>Further to our discussion this morning (ref:
>>>>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_05_18#nidN8V
>>>>)
>>>>
>>>>I have just spoken to Natasha and concluded that we will have to do without
>>>>the "Ontology Development on Protege" talk for this series (as they have a
>>>>mission critical task at hand that isn't delivered until 6/15~20, and
>>>>therefore Natasha doesn't think they can put together the talk we 
>>>>would want
>>>>for 6/15 or 22).
>>>>
>>>>As such, the schedule now reads:
>>>>
>>>># 2006.06.01 - Matthew West - Application Integration / ISO 18876
>>>>
>>>># 2006.06.08 - no (special) event
>>>>
>>>># 2006.06.15  - Moderators: EMichaelMaximilien / ConorShankey - 
>>>>Ontologizing
>>>>the Ontolog Body of Knowledge, Discussion Session-2
>>>>
>>>># 2006.06.22 - ** (see below)
>>>>
>>>># 2006.05.29 - Timothy Redmond - Protege architecture & API
>>>>
>>>># 2006.07.06 - no (special) event
>>>>
>>>># 2006.07.13 - Pat Cassidy - From Controlled Vocabulary to Formal Ontology
>>>>
>>>># 2006.07.23 - Ontolog F2F workshop, Organizers: BobSmith, KurtConrad &
>>>>RexBrooks -  Natural, Semi-Formal, and Formal
>>>>Ontologies: Bridging the Layers, Limits, and Lacunas
>>>>
>>>>Remarks:
>>>>
>>>>(a) the 2006.06.22 date is now "available" again ...
>>>>** Rex & Bob, your call to either continue the "Ontology Applications in
>>>>Emergency Response" Panel Discussion on that date as originally planned, or
>>>>you may opt to roll that one out on the later 2006.08.10 date (as we
>>>>discussed during today's call.) Please advise your disposition.
>>>>
>>>>(b) except for the 7/23/06 F2F, which will be a full-day event at Stanford,
>>>>CA, USA, all sessions are scheduled above are 2-hour virtual sessions
>>>>starting at: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT / 17:30 UTC on the 
>>>>respective dates.
>>>>
>>>>All: please acknowledge and advise immediately if you still want 
>>>>any part of
>>>>the above schedule modified. We need to tie down all the dates before
>>>>end-of-day tomorrow. I'll follow-up with necessary administrivia 
>>>>after that.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks & regards.  =ppy
>>>>--    (014)


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