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To: IAOA SemanticWeb-AppliedOntology SIG <iaoa-swao@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Obrst, Leo J." <lobrst@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 00:08:24 +0000
Message-id: <FDFBC56B2482EE48850DB651ADF7FEB0351561AD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
I think I posted it, Elie, but will have to go back and see.    (01)

By the way, Peter Patel-Schneider has agreed to be on the PC. Chiara Ghidini 
cannot (no time, since she is local co-chair of ISWC 2014).    (02)

Recent invitations out to Deborah McGuinness, Leora Morgenstern.     (03)

I think we will go with the current PC for the workshop submission, unless 
others reply by next Monday.    (04)

Also, can one of the chairs moderate the telecon this Monday? I'm hoping to 
disengage more, now that the proposal is mostly done, and take more of a 
background role.    (05)

I suggest the chairs and PC chairs become familiar with EasyChair too, since if 
the workshop it accepted, we should probably use that.    (06)

Thanks,
Leo    (07)

>-----Original Message-----
>From: iaoa-swao-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:iaoa-swao-
>bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Elie Abi-Lahoud
>Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:13 PM
>To: IAOA SemanticWeb-AppliedOntology SIG
>Subject: Re: [iaoa-swao] RE(2): distribution of chat summary and transcript ==
>[was:] IAOA - SWAO SIG - 03 Mar 2014 Meeting Summary
>
>Frank and Leo,
>
>Should I send the Meeting Chat Summary of IAOA-SWAO 03 Mar 2014 to the
>list IAOA-Member? I can't seem to find a trace of it on this list.
>
>Thanks,
>Elie
>
>On 3/9/14 1:24 PM, "Obrst, Leo J." <lobrst@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>Frank,
>>
>>Thanks, this does sound reasonable. Let's have this policy in effect, at
>>least to the next time that we can discuss it at a SWAO SIG meeting.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Leo
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: iaoa-swao-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:iaoa-swao-
>>>bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Loebe
>>>Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:54 AM
>>>To: 'IAOA SemanticWeb-AppliedOntology SIG'
>>>Subject: [iaoa-swao] RE(2): distribution of chat summary and transcript
>>>==
>>>[was:] IAOA - SWAO SIG - 03 Mar 2014 Meeting Summary
>>>
>>>Hi Leo,
>>>
>>>thank you very much for taking this up, I haven't had a chance to get
>>>back
>>>to it yet.
>>>
>>>> I would simply send the chat summary and minutes to both IAOA and IAOA
>>>> SWAO SIG lists. That way, we notify our own SIG membership, but also
>>>>let
>>>> the IAOA general membership know what we are up to.
>>>
>>>For two reasons I'd like to propose slightly differently, namely to send
>>>only the chat summary to [iaoa-member] and to [iaoa-swao]. Via
>>>[iaoa-swao],
>>>this will be publically available. The chat-transcript together with the
>>>summary should be stored in the SIG's file workspace, which is
>>>access-restricted to IAOA members.
>>>
>>>The first reason is the public availability of the [iaoa-swao] archive.
>>>For
>>>me it's unclear beforehand whether any sensitive information appears in
>>>the
>>>chat-transcript, e.g. email addresses etc. Thus the transcript had to be
>>>checked for such occurrences. Moreover, when e.g. I capture what I have
>>>understood from others, this may be wrong, in particular, since this is
>>>produced live and rather quickly. Therefore already, I propose to keep
>>>the
>>>chat transcript access-restricted.
>>>
>>>The second reason concerns the tradeoff of visibility of the SIG vs.\
>>>contextual appropriateness & information load. IAOA members interested in
>>>details of the SIG (though hopefully many) should join the SWAO mailing
>>>list
>>>(and ideally the group as such). Those IAOA members not so much
>>>interested
>>>in the SIG I would inform via the chat summary only, that produces
>>>visibility already. I would propose to save them from having to ignore
>>>another message sent at the same time that most likely they are not
>>>highly
>>>interested in.
>>>
>>>But all that's just my view and proposal, open to other points that I
>>>miss.
>>>I suggest to find an agreement in the next SIG meeting and live with the
>>>more restricted approach until then, because the other way round is
>>>harder
>>>to reverse.
>>>
>>>Thanks for forwarding the chat summary to the list already, I've just
>>>been
>>>to slow. Overall, I think it's preferable to post the summaries directly
>>>in
>>>the body of the message instead of/in addition to a text file attachment,
>>>because then specific parts of the summary can be referenced later via
>>>purple numbers in the archive.
>>>Therefore, in this case overruling the information load argument above,
>>>I'll
>>>re-post the summary after I've uploaded the chat transcript in the file
>>>workspace, such that it can be linked in the summary, as also suggested
>>>by
>>>Elie. (Not immediately, since I need to settle a technical issue with the
>>>workspace access on my machine first. Then I can let you know better how
>>>to
>>>use the file workspace.)
>>>
>>>Thanks and best regards,
>>>Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: iaoa-swao-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:iaoa-swao-
>>>> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Obrst, Leo J.
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 10:35 PM
>>>> To: IAOA SemanticWeb-AppliedOntology SIG
>>>> Subject: Re: [iaoa-swao] IAOA - SWAO SIG - 03 Mar 2014 Meeting Summary
>>>>
>>>> Elie,
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure that we answered you about this. See below, inline.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Leo
>>>>
>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>> >From: iaoa-swao-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:iaoa-swao-
>>>> >bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Obrst, Leo J.
>>>> >Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 4:24 PM
>>>> >To: IAOA SemanticWeb-AppliedOntology SIG (iaoa-
>swao@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
>>>> >Subject: [iaoa-swao] FW: IAOA - SWAO SIG - 03 Mar 2014 Meeting
>Summary
>>>> >
>>>> >FYI.
>>>> >
>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>> >From: Elie Abi-Lahoud [mailto:E.Abilahoud@xxxxxx]
>>>> >Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:58 AM
>>>> >To: Obrst, Leo J.; stefano.borgo@xxxxxxxxx; kenb@xxxxxxxxxxx; Peter
>>>> >Yim; Naicong_Li@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; mdean@xxxxxxx;
>>>> >frank.loebe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; tjschneider@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> >Cc: arwesterinen@xxxxxxxxx; mbennett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >Subject: IAOA - SWAO SIG - 03 Mar 2014 Meeting Summary
>>>> >
>>>> >Hi all,
>>>> >
>>>> >Please find attached a summary of last meeting's discussed topics,
>>>> >decisions and actions.
>>>> >
>>>> >I need your help/ feedback on two matters:
>>>> >1- Will the chat transcript be published? Open access or restricted?
>>>> >I'd like to add a link to the chat transcript in the attached.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, you should send the chat transcript to both the SWAO-SIG list and
>>>>the
>>>> IAOA list.
>>>>
>>>> >2- I am still not clear on the last agenda item: "4. SWAO SIG mailing
>>>> >list established & which initial subscriptions". Will this SIG be open
>>>> >to non-IAOA- members? Any suggestions to amend the attached to better
>>>> >reflect the current situation?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, this is currently open to both IAOA and non-IAOA members, though
>>>>the
>>>> IAOA EC has not yet ruled on the policy behind SIG membership, i.e.,
>>>> probably non-IAOA members cannot vote on official IAOA issues.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >Frank, thank you very much for capturing everything in the chat to
>>>> >enable me to draft the attached.
>>>> >I am not familiar with how to communicate the meeting minutes/
>summary
>>>> >to the community once everyone is happy with it. Should I send it to
>>>> >you, Frank, and you will diffuse it?
>>>>
>>>> I would simply send the chat summary and minutes to both IAOA and IAOA
>>>> SWAO SIG lists. That way, we notify our own SIG membership, but also
>>>>let
>>>> the IAOA general membership know what we are up to.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >Thank you,
>>>> >Elie
>>>>
>>>>
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