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To: IAOA SemanticWeb-AppliedOntology SIG <iaoa-swao@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Obrst, Leo J." <lobrst@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 13:23:52 +0000
Message-id: <FDFBC56B2482EE48850DB651ADF7FEB03514DC3F@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Frank,    (01)

Thanks, this does sound reasonable. Let's have this policy in effect, at least 
to the next time that we can discuss it at a SWAO SIG meeting.    (02)

Thanks,
Leo    (03)

>-----Original Message-----
>From: iaoa-swao-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:iaoa-swao-
>bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Loebe
>Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:54 AM
>To: 'IAOA SemanticWeb-AppliedOntology SIG'
>Subject: [iaoa-swao] RE(2): distribution of chat summary and transcript ==
>[was:] IAOA - SWAO SIG - 03 Mar 2014 Meeting Summary
>
>Hi Leo,
>
>thank you very much for taking this up, I haven't had a chance to get back
>to it yet.
>
>> I would simply send the chat summary and minutes to both IAOA and IAOA
>> SWAO SIG lists. That way, we notify our own SIG membership, but also let
>> the IAOA general membership know what we are up to.
>
>For two reasons I'd like to propose slightly differently, namely to send
>only the chat summary to [iaoa-member] and to [iaoa-swao]. Via [iaoa-swao],
>this will be publically available. The chat-transcript together with the
>summary should be stored in the SIG's file workspace, which is
>access-restricted to IAOA members.
>
>The first reason is the public availability of the [iaoa-swao] archive. For
>me it's unclear beforehand whether any sensitive information appears in the
>chat-transcript, e.g. email addresses etc. Thus the transcript had to be
>checked for such occurrences. Moreover, when e.g. I capture what I have
>understood from others, this may be wrong, in particular, since this is
>produced live and rather quickly. Therefore already, I propose to keep the
>chat transcript access-restricted.
>
>The second reason concerns the tradeoff of visibility of the SIG vs.\
>contextual appropriateness & information load. IAOA members interested in
>details of the SIG (though hopefully many) should join the SWAO mailing list
>(and ideally the group as such). Those IAOA members not so much interested
>in the SIG I would inform via the chat summary only, that produces
>visibility already. I would propose to save them from having to ignore
>another message sent at the same time that most likely they are not highly
>interested in.
>
>But all that's just my view and proposal, open to other points that I miss.
>I suggest to find an agreement in the next SIG meeting and live with the
>more restricted approach until then, because the other way round is harder
>to reverse.
>
>Thanks for forwarding the chat summary to the list already, I've just been
>to slow. Overall, I think it's preferable to post the summaries directly in
>the body of the message instead of/in addition to a text file attachment,
>because then specific parts of the summary can be referenced later via
>purple numbers in the archive.
>Therefore, in this case overruling the information load argument above, I'll
>re-post the summary after I've uploaded the chat transcript in the file
>workspace, such that it can be linked in the summary, as also suggested by
>Elie. (Not immediately, since I need to settle a technical issue with the
>workspace access on my machine first. Then I can let you know better how to
>use the file workspace.)
>
>Thanks and best regards,
>Frank
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: iaoa-swao-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:iaoa-swao-
>> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Obrst, Leo J.
>> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 10:35 PM
>> To: IAOA SemanticWeb-AppliedOntology SIG
>> Subject: Re: [iaoa-swao] IAOA - SWAO SIG - 03 Mar 2014 Meeting Summary
>>
>> Elie,
>>
>> I am not sure that we answered you about this. See below, inline.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Leo
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: iaoa-swao-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:iaoa-swao-
>> >bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Obrst, Leo J.
>> >Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 4:24 PM
>> >To: IAOA SemanticWeb-AppliedOntology SIG (iaoa-swao@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
>> >Subject: [iaoa-swao] FW: IAOA - SWAO SIG - 03 Mar 2014 Meeting Summary
>> >
>> >FYI.
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Elie Abi-Lahoud [mailto:E.Abilahoud@xxxxxx]
>> >Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:58 AM
>> >To: Obrst, Leo J.; stefano.borgo@xxxxxxxxx; kenb@xxxxxxxxxxx; Peter
>> >Yim; Naicong_Li@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; mdean@xxxxxxx;
>> >frank.loebe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; tjschneider@xxxxxxxxx
>> >Cc: arwesterinen@xxxxxxxxx; mbennett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Subject: IAOA - SWAO SIG - 03 Mar 2014 Meeting Summary
>> >
>> >Hi all,
>> >
>> >Please find attached a summary of last meeting's discussed topics,
>> >decisions and actions.
>> >
>> >I need your help/ feedback on two matters:
>> >1- Will the chat transcript be published? Open access or restricted?
>> >I'd like to add a link to the chat transcript in the attached.
>>
>> Yes, you should send the chat transcript to both the SWAO-SIG list and the
>> IAOA list.
>>
>> >2- I am still not clear on the last agenda item: "4. SWAO SIG mailing
>> >list established & which initial subscriptions". Will this SIG be open
>> >to non-IAOA- members? Any suggestions to amend the attached to better
>> >reflect the current situation?
>>
>> Yes, this is currently open to both IAOA and non-IAOA members, though the
>> IAOA EC has not yet ruled on the policy behind SIG membership, i.e.,
>> probably non-IAOA members cannot vote on official IAOA issues.
>>
>> >
>> >Frank, thank you very much for capturing everything in the chat to
>> >enable me to draft the attached.
>> >I am not familiar with how to communicate the meeting minutes/ summary
>> >to the community once everyone is happy with it. Should I send it to
>> >you, Frank, and you will diffuse it?
>>
>> I would simply send the chat summary and minutes to both IAOA and IAOA
>> SWAO SIG lists. That way, we notify our own SIG membership, but also let
>> the IAOA general membership know what we are up to.
>>
>> >
>> >Thank you,
>> >Elie
>>
>>
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