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To: IAOA SemanticWeb-AppliedOntology SIG <iaoa-swao@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Elie Abi-Lahoud <E.Abilahoud@xxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 23:12:38 +0000
Message-id: <CF45479A.495B%e.abilahoud@xxxxxx>
Frank and Leo,    (01)

Should I send the Meeting Chat Summary of IAOA-SWAO 03 Mar 2014 to the
list IAOA-Member? I can't seem to find a trace of it on this list.    (02)

Thanks,
Elie    (03)

On 3/9/14 1:24 PM, "Obrst, Leo J." <lobrst@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:    (04)

>Frank,
>
>Thanks, this does sound reasonable. Let's have this policy in effect, at
>least to the next time that we can discuss it at a SWAO SIG meeting.
>
>Thanks,
>Leo
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: iaoa-swao-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:iaoa-swao-
>>bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Loebe
>>Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:54 AM
>>To: 'IAOA SemanticWeb-AppliedOntology SIG'
>>Subject: [iaoa-swao] RE(2): distribution of chat summary and transcript
>>==
>>[was:] IAOA - SWAO SIG - 03 Mar 2014 Meeting Summary
>>
>>Hi Leo,
>>
>>thank you very much for taking this up, I haven't had a chance to get
>>back
>>to it yet.
>>
>>> I would simply send the chat summary and minutes to both IAOA and IAOA
>>> SWAO SIG lists. That way, we notify our own SIG membership, but also
>>>let
>>> the IAOA general membership know what we are up to.
>>
>>For two reasons I'd like to propose slightly differently, namely to send
>>only the chat summary to [iaoa-member] and to [iaoa-swao]. Via
>>[iaoa-swao],
>>this will be publically available. The chat-transcript together with the
>>summary should be stored in the SIG's file workspace, which is
>>access-restricted to IAOA members.
>>
>>The first reason is the public availability of the [iaoa-swao] archive.
>>For
>>me it's unclear beforehand whether any sensitive information appears in
>>the
>>chat-transcript, e.g. email addresses etc. Thus the transcript had to be
>>checked for such occurrences. Moreover, when e.g. I capture what I have
>>understood from others, this may be wrong, in particular, since this is
>>produced live and rather quickly. Therefore already, I propose to keep
>>the
>>chat transcript access-restricted.
>>
>>The second reason concerns the tradeoff of visibility of the SIG vs.\
>>contextual appropriateness & information load. IAOA members interested in
>>details of the SIG (though hopefully many) should join the SWAO mailing
>>list
>>(and ideally the group as such). Those IAOA members not so much
>>interested
>>in the SIG I would inform via the chat summary only, that produces
>>visibility already. I would propose to save them from having to ignore
>>another message sent at the same time that most likely they are not
>>highly
>>interested in.
>>
>>But all that's just my view and proposal, open to other points that I
>>miss.
>>I suggest to find an agreement in the next SIG meeting and live with the
>>more restricted approach until then, because the other way round is
>>harder
>>to reverse.
>>
>>Thanks for forwarding the chat summary to the list already, I've just
>>been
>>to slow. Overall, I think it's preferable to post the summaries directly
>>in
>>the body of the message instead of/in addition to a text file attachment,
>>because then specific parts of the summary can be referenced later via
>>purple numbers in the archive.
>>Therefore, in this case overruling the information load argument above,
>>I'll
>>re-post the summary after I've uploaded the chat transcript in the file
>>workspace, such that it can be linked in the summary, as also suggested
>>by
>>Elie. (Not immediately, since I need to settle a technical issue with the
>>workspace access on my machine first. Then I can let you know better how
>>to
>>use the file workspace.)
>>
>>Thanks and best regards,
>>Frank
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: iaoa-swao-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:iaoa-swao-
>>> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Obrst, Leo J.
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 10:35 PM
>>> To: IAOA SemanticWeb-AppliedOntology SIG
>>> Subject: Re: [iaoa-swao] IAOA - SWAO SIG - 03 Mar 2014 Meeting Summary
>>>
>>> Elie,
>>>
>>> I am not sure that we answered you about this. See below, inline.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Leo
>>>
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: iaoa-swao-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:iaoa-swao-
>>> >bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Obrst, Leo J.
>>> >Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 4:24 PM
>>> >To: IAOA SemanticWeb-AppliedOntology SIG (iaoa-swao@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
>>> >Subject: [iaoa-swao] FW: IAOA - SWAO SIG - 03 Mar 2014 Meeting Summary
>>> >
>>> >FYI.
>>> >
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: Elie Abi-Lahoud [mailto:E.Abilahoud@xxxxxx]
>>> >Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:58 AM
>>> >To: Obrst, Leo J.; stefano.borgo@xxxxxxxxx; kenb@xxxxxxxxxxx; Peter
>>> >Yim; Naicong_Li@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; mdean@xxxxxxx;
>>> >frank.loebe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; tjschneider@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >Cc: arwesterinen@xxxxxxxxx; mbennett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >Subject: IAOA - SWAO SIG - 03 Mar 2014 Meeting Summary
>>> >
>>> >Hi all,
>>> >
>>> >Please find attached a summary of last meeting's discussed topics,
>>> >decisions and actions.
>>> >
>>> >I need your help/ feedback on two matters:
>>> >1- Will the chat transcript be published? Open access or restricted?
>>> >I'd like to add a link to the chat transcript in the attached.
>>>
>>> Yes, you should send the chat transcript to both the SWAO-SIG list and
>>>the
>>> IAOA list.
>>>
>>> >2- I am still not clear on the last agenda item: "4. SWAO SIG mailing
>>> >list established & which initial subscriptions". Will this SIG be open
>>> >to non-IAOA- members? Any suggestions to amend the attached to better
>>> >reflect the current situation?
>>>
>>> Yes, this is currently open to both IAOA and non-IAOA members, though
>>>the
>>> IAOA EC has not yet ruled on the policy behind SIG membership, i.e.,
>>> probably non-IAOA members cannot vote on official IAOA issues.
>>>
>>> >
>>> >Frank, thank you very much for capturing everything in the chat to
>>> >enable me to draft the attached.
>>> >I am not familiar with how to communicate the meeting minutes/ summary
>>> >to the community once everyone is happy with it. Should I send it to
>>> >you, Frank, and you will diffuse it?
>>>
>>> I would simply send the chat summary and minutes to both IAOA and IAOA
>>> SWAO SIG lists. That way, we notify our own SIG membership, but also
>>>let
>>> the IAOA general membership know what we are up to.
>>>
>>> >
>>> >Thank you,
>>> >Elie
>>>
>>>
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SIG Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?IAOA_SWAO_SIG 
Activities Blog: http://iaoa-activities.blogspot.com/ ...(coming!) 
To join: please email the SIG conveners or to: info[at]iaoa.org
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