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[iaoa-swao] RE(3): distribution of chat summary and transcript

To: "'IAOA SemanticWeb-AppliedOntology SIG'" <iaoa-swao@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Frank Loebe" <frank.loebe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:29:09 +0100
Message-id: <009b01cf3dd5$89a0aa10$9ce1fe30$@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
Hi Elie & Leo,    (01)

>> [EAL]
>>Should I send the Meeting Chat Summary of IAOA-SWAO 03 Mar 2014 to the
>>list IAOA-Member? I can't seem to find a trace of it on this list.    (02)

> [LO]
> I think I posted it, Elie, but will have to go back and see.    (03)

Yes, Leo has posted it in [1], yet only in attachment, which is linked at
the bottom of [1] as [2].    (04)

For better visibility, I intend(ed) to:    (05)

>>>> [FL]
>>>> I'll re-post the summary after I've uploaded the chat transcript in the
>>>> file workspace, such that it can be linked in the summary, as also
>>>> suggested by Elie.
>>>> (Not immediately, since I need to settle a technical issue with
>>>> the workspace access on my machine first. Then I can let you know
better
>>>> how to use the file workspace.)    (06)

I haven't had time to deal with the technical issue yet, I'm sorry, and
therefore the upload hasn't happened.    (07)

I'll repost the summary in a minute.    (08)

Best regards,
Frank    (09)


[1] http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/iaoa-swao/2014-03/msg00031.html    (010)

[2] http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/iaoa-swao/2014-03/txt1nrZ2411tL.txt    (011)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: iaoa-swao-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:iaoa-swao-
> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Obrst, Leo J.
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 1:08 AM
> To: IAOA SemanticWeb-AppliedOntology SIG
> Subject: Re: [iaoa-swao] RE(2): distribution of chat summary and
> transcript == [was:] IAOA - SWAO SIG - 03 Mar 2014 Meeting Summary
> 
> I think I posted it, Elie, but will have to go back and see.
> 
> By the way, Peter Patel-Schneider has agreed to be on the PC. Chiara
> Ghidini cannot (no time, since she is local co-chair of ISWC 2014).
> 
> Recent invitations out to Deborah McGuinness, Leora Morgenstern.
> 
> I think we will go with the current PC for the workshop submission, unless
> others reply by next Monday.
> 
> Also, can one of the chairs moderate the telecon this Monday? I'm hoping
> to disengage more, now that the proposal is mostly done, and take more of
> a background role.
> 
> I suggest the chairs and PC chairs become familiar with EasyChair too,
> since if the workshop it accepted, we should probably use that.
> 
> Thanks,
> Leo
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: iaoa-swao-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:iaoa-swao-
> >bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Elie Abi-Lahoud
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:13 PM
> >To: IAOA SemanticWeb-AppliedOntology SIG
> >Subject: Re: [iaoa-swao] RE(2): distribution of chat summary and
> transcript ==
> >[was:] IAOA - SWAO SIG - 03 Mar 2014 Meeting Summary
> >
> >Frank and Leo,
> >
> >Should I send the Meeting Chat Summary of IAOA-SWAO 03 Mar 2014 to the
> >list IAOA-Member? I can't seem to find a trace of it on this list.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Elie
> >
> >On 3/9/14 1:24 PM, "Obrst, Leo J." <lobrst@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >>Frank,
> >>
> >>Thanks, this does sound reasonable. Let's have this policy in effect, at
> >>least to the next time that we can discuss it at a SWAO SIG meeting.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>Leo
> >>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: iaoa-swao-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:iaoa-swao-
> >>>bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Loebe
> >>>Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:54 AM
> >>>To: 'IAOA SemanticWeb-AppliedOntology SIG'
> >>>Subject: [iaoa-swao] RE(2): distribution of chat summary and transcript
> >>>==
> >>>[was:] IAOA - SWAO SIG - 03 Mar 2014 Meeting Summary
> >>>
> >>>Hi Leo,
> >>>
> >>>thank you very much for taking this up, I haven't had a chance to get
> >>>back
> >>>to it yet.
> >>>
> >>>> I would simply send the chat summary and minutes to both IAOA and
> IAOA
> >>>> SWAO SIG lists. That way, we notify our own SIG membership, but also
> >>>>let
> >>>> the IAOA general membership know what we are up to.
> >>>
> >>>For two reasons I'd like to propose slightly differently, namely to
> send
> >>>only the chat summary to [iaoa-member] and to [iaoa-swao]. Via
> >>>[iaoa-swao],
> >>>this will be publically available. The chat-transcript together with
> the
> >>>summary should be stored in the SIG's file workspace, which is
> >>>access-restricted to IAOA members.
> >>>
> >>>The first reason is the public availability of the [iaoa-swao] archive.
> >>>For
> >>>me it's unclear beforehand whether any sensitive information appears in
> >>>the
> >>>chat-transcript, e.g. email addresses etc. Thus the transcript had to
> be
> >>>checked for such occurrences. Moreover, when e.g. I capture what I have
> >>>understood from others, this may be wrong, in particular, since this is
> >>>produced live and rather quickly. Therefore already, I propose to keep
> >>>the
> >>>chat transcript access-restricted.
> >>>
> >>>The second reason concerns the tradeoff of visibility of the SIG vs.\
> >>>contextual appropriateness & information load. IAOA members interested
> in
> >>>details of the SIG (though hopefully many) should join the SWAO mailing
> >>>list
> >>>(and ideally the group as such). Those IAOA members not so much
> >>>interested
> >>>in the SIG I would inform via the chat summary only, that produces
> >>>visibility already. I would propose to save them from having to ignore
> >>>another message sent at the same time that most likely they are not
> >>>highly
> >>>interested in.
> >>>
> >>>But all that's just my view and proposal, open to other points that I
> >>>miss.
> >>>I suggest to find an agreement in the next SIG meeting and live with
> the
> >>>more restricted approach until then, because the other way round is
> >>>harder
> >>>to reverse.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for forwarding the chat summary to the list already, I've just
> >>>been
> >>>to slow. Overall, I think it's preferable to post the summaries
> directly
> >>>in
> >>>the body of the message instead of/in addition to a text file
> attachment,
> >>>because then specific parts of the summary can be referenced later via
> >>>purple numbers in the archive.
> >>>Therefore, in this case overruling the information load argument above,
> >>>I'll
> >>>re-post the summary after I've uploaded the chat transcript in the file
> >>>workspace, such that it can be linked in the summary, as also suggested
> >>>by
> >>>Elie. (Not immediately, since I need to settle a technical issue with
> the
> >>>workspace access on my machine first. Then I can let you know better
> how
> >>>to
> >>>use the file workspace.)
> >>>
> >>>Thanks and best regards,
> >>>Frank    (012)


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