> [DMP] ... can you recommend a high end VoIP? (01)
[ppy] actually no, I can't ... I don't have enough direct experience
to be in a position to. But, when I related Skype to "lower-end" of
the service quality spectrum, I had commercial carriers (the usual
suspects) offering VoIP service in mind ... people like A&T, Time
Warner, Vonage, Comcast, Covad ... etc. (02)
If I understood Toby's message properly, maybe part of your problems
today was with the your conference bridge provider too. (03)
Cheers. =ppy
-- (04)
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Deborah MacPherson <debmacp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Peter - Accuracy&Aesthetics just had some Skype problems for our last
> meeting, can you recommend a high end VoIP? Thanks, Deborah (05)
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Thank for bringing this up, Michelle.
>>
>>
>> Gerald,
>>
>> Sorry to hear that you ran into difficulies with the conference call
>> connection.
>>
>> > [GD] I was connected for about 45 minutes to the audio of this
>> > conference, but had great difficulty understanding what was
>> > being said due to poor sound on Skype. Finally, Skype
>> > disconnected me involuntarily.
>>
>> [ppy] From your description, it sounds like you had a bad/unstable
>> Internet connection. QoS (quality of service) is still an issue with
>> VoIP services, especially with the lower-end services like Skype.
>> Maybe you might try to find a location with a better (bandband)
>> connection to the Internet the next time around ... or use POTS
>> ("plain old telephone service" ... i.e. a "land line") instead, if
>> possible.
>>
>> > [GD] I was unable to get in via the number 990008275823120
>> > because Skype added a country code in front ...
>>
>> [ppy] If you had entered "+990008275823120" (believe the missing "+"
>> is causing the problem for you) as indicated on the session page's
>> conference call details -
>>
>>
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?BuildingServicePerformance/ConferenceCall_2008_06_23#nid1JMT
>> ) then it will bypass the country code prefixing (even if you had
>> chosen US or France) and give you the direct Skype connection.
>>
>> > [GD] On Skype, I used the number
>> > +33 826100277 and for that, Skype gave an error message that the
>> > number is non-existent.
>>
>> [ppy] I tried reproducing you problem, and confirm that it is in fact
>> the case. I tried dialing 8 times, and (like you) got the "invalid or
>> non-existent" error 4 times, got "call failed" 3 times ... but was
>> actually able to get through once! ... That service is obviously
>> inadequate, at least for now. I have communicated that to the service
>> provider already. In the mean time, please try (i) POTS, (ii) direct
>> dial to skype, and (iii) other available lines, instead. ... Sorry!
>>
>>
>> Regards. =ppy
>>
>> Peter P. Yim
>>
>> Co-convener,
>> Ontolog Forum
>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/
>>
>> President & CEO
>> CIM Engineering, Inc. (dba. "CIM3")
>> San Mateo, California, USA.
>> http://cwe.cim3.net/
>> +1 (650) 578-9998
>>
>> http://xri.net/=Peter.Yim
>> --
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Michelle Raymond
>> <michellearaymond@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Gerald,
>> >
>> > Welcome to you and Francoise.
>> >
>> > I forwarded your messages to the group to see if technical
>> > aide might be rendered. Will you be in France, Canada or
>> > over the Atlantic on the 14th of July? Please let me know if,
>> > given no technical difficulties, you intend to attend the
>> > Kickoff session on Monday 14 July 2008, 14:30 UTC.
>> >
>> > Current BSP Folks,
>> >
>> > Forwarded in Message 1, below, is an introduction from
>> > Gerald Davis and Francoise Szigeti who want to participate.
>> >
>> > Forwarded in Message 2, further below, is a description
>> > of their technical difficulty in connecting from France to
>> > today's meeting.
>> >
>> > I know that Skype audio quality can be an iffy thing. As to
>> > their other connection issues: country code, number not
>> > available, etc... I hope someone with more international
>> > connection knowledge will jump in here to assist. (Peter?)
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> > Michelle
>> > ---------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message 1: from Gerald Davis
>> >
>> > I intend to join the session today. Francoise Szigeti will join me,
>> > and we will share a single computer screen. We intend to call in
>> > on Skype, and if that fails to call in on the number in France.
>> >
>> > I am currently convener of two ISO working groups in this subject,
>> > see my signature block below. I am also the past chair of
>> > ASTM E06.25 on Whole Buildings and Facilities, which has a
>> > whole array of American National Standards for measuring the
>> > functional performance of buildings. Francoise Szigeti and I
>> > were part of the NBIMS effort.
>> >
>> > I look forward to learning more about what this effort intends.
>> >
>> > Gerald Davis
>> > President, International Centre for Facilities
>> > Chairman, TEAG - The Environmental Analysis Group
>> > Chair of ANSI TAG to ISO/TC59, and its SC02, SC03, SC14
>> > Convener, ISO/TC59/ SC14/WG10, and SC03/WG15+WG16
>> > Chair, ASTM E06.92
>> > Past Chair, ASTM E06 and E06.25
>> > Phone: +1 613.727.1788 Skype=gerald.davis1
>> > www.icf-cebe.com fs-gd@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> > Francoise Szigeti
>> > Vice President, International Centre for Facilities
>> > President, TEAG - The Environmental Analysis Group
>> > Phone: +1 613.727.1788 Skype=gerald.davis1
>> > www.icf-cebe.com fs-gd@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> >
>> > Message 2: from Gerald Davis
>> >
>> > I was connected for about 45 minutes to the audio of this
>> > conference, but had great difficulty understanding what was
>> > being said due to poor sound on Skype. Finally, Skype
>> > disconnected me involuntarily.
>> >
>> > I had connected via the number in the USA +1 605 475-8590.
>> > My internet connection is via an ADSL line from Orange, in France.
>> >
>> > I was unable to get in via the number 990008275823120 because
>> > Skype added a country code in front, including when I selected USA,
>> > France, etc. as country of destination. On Skype, I used the number
>> > +33 826100277 and for that, Skype gave an error message that the
>> > number is non-existent.
>> >
>> > Francoise Szigeti and I do want to participate. We will not be back
>> > to our base in Canada until mid-July.
>> >
>> > Gerald Davis, IFMA Fellow, ASTM Fellow, CFM, AIA
>> >
>> > [snip]
>> >
>>
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