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Re: [bsp-forum] BSP Kickoff - Wish to participate AND Re: Technical conn

To: "BSP Forum" <bsp-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Gerald Davis <fs-gd@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Deborah MacPherson" <debmacp@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:20:15 -0400
Message-id: <48f213f30806231720h2cf2ca04qb5a3df01c220d169@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Hi Peter - Accuracy&Aesthetics just had some Skype problems for our last meeting, can you recommend a high end VoIP? Thanks, Deborah

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thank for bringing this up, Michelle.


Gerald,

Sorry to hear that you ran into difficulies with the conference call connection.

> [GD]  I was connected for about 45 minutes to the audio of this
> conference, but had great difficulty understanding what was
> being said due to poor sound on Skype. Finally, Skype
> disconnected me involuntarily.

[ppy]  From your description, it sounds like you had a bad/unstable
Internet connection. QoS (quality of service) is still an issue with
VoIP services, especially with the lower-end services like Skype.
Maybe you might try to find a location with a better (bandband)
connection to the Internet the next time around ... or use POTS
("plain old telephone service" ... i.e. a "land line") instead, if
possible.

> [GD]  I was unable to get in via the number 990008275823120
> because Skype added a country code in front ...

[ppy]  If you had entered "+990008275823120" (believe the missing "+"
is causing the problem for you) as indicated on the session page's
conference call details -
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?BuildingServicePerformance/ConferenceCall_2008_06_23#nid1JMT
) then it will bypass the country code prefixing (even if you had
chosen US or France) and give you the direct Skype connection.

> [GD]  On Skype, I used the number
> +33 826100277 and for that, Skype gave an error message that the
> number is non-existent.

[ppy]  I tried reproducing you problem, and confirm that it is in fact
the case. I tried dialing 8 times, and (like you) got the "invalid or
non-existent" error 4 times, got "call failed" 3 times ... but was
actually able to get through once! ... That service is obviously
inadequate, at least for now. I have communicated that to the service
provider already. In the mean time, please try (i) POTS, (ii) direct
dial to skype, and (iii) other available lines, instead. ... Sorry!


Regards.  =ppy

Peter P. Yim

Co-convener,
Ontolog Forum
http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/

President & CEO
CIM Engineering, Inc. (dba. "CIM3")
San Mateo, California, USA.
http://cwe.cim3.net/
+1 (650) 578-9998

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On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Michelle Raymond
<michellearaymond@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Gerald,
>
>    Welcome to you and Francoise.
>
>    I forwarded your messages to the group to see if technical
>    aide might be rendered. Will you be in France, Canada or
>    over the Atlantic on the 14th of July?  Please let me know if,
>    given no technical difficulties, you intend to attend the
>    Kickoff session on Monday 14 July 2008, 14:30 UTC.
>
> Current BSP Folks,
>
>   Forwarded in Message 1, below, is an introduction from
>   Gerald Davis and Francoise Szigeti who want to participate.
>
>   Forwarded in Message 2, further below, is a description
>   of their technical difficulty in connecting from France to
>   today's meeting.
>
>  I know that Skype audio quality can be an iffy thing.  As to
>  their other connection issues: country code, number not
>  available, etc... I hope someone with more international
>  connection knowledge will jump in here to assist. (Peter?)
>
> Best Regards,
> Michelle
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Message 1:  from Gerald Davis
>
> I intend to join the session today. Francoise Szigeti will join me,
> and we will share a single computer screen. We intend to call in
> on Skype, and if that fails to call in on the number in France.
>
> I am currently convener of two ISO working groups in this subject,
> see my signature block below. I am also the past chair of
> ASTM E06.25 on Whole Buildings and Facilities, which has a
> whole array of American National Standards for measuring the
> functional performance of buildings. Francoise Szigeti and I
> were part of the NBIMS effort.
>
> I look forward to learning more about what this effort intends.
>
> Gerald Davis
> President, International Centre for Facilities
> Chairman, TEAG - The Environmental Analysis Group
> Chair of ANSI TAG to ISO/TC59, and its SC02, SC03, SC14
> Convener, ISO/TC59/ SC14/WG10, and SC03/WG15+WG16
> Chair, ASTM E06.92
> Past Chair, ASTM E06 and  E06.25
> Phone: +1 613.727.1788    Skype=gerald.davis1
> www.icf-cebe.com    fs-gd@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Francoise Szigeti
> Vice President, International Centre for Facilities
> President, TEAG - The Environmental Analysis Group
> Phone: +1 613.727.1788    Skype=gerald.davis1
> www.icf-cebe.com    fs-gd@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> Message 2: from Gerald Davis
>
> I was connected for about 45 minutes to the audio of this
> conference, but had great difficulty understanding what was
> being said due to poor sound on Skype. Finally, Skype
> disconnected me involuntarily.
>
> I had connected via the number in the USA +1 605 475-8590.
> My internet connection is via an ADSL line from Orange, in France.
>
> I was unable to get in via the number 990008275823120 because
> Skype added a country code in front, including when I selected USA,
> France, etc. as country of destination. On Skype, I used the number
> +33 826100277 and for that, Skype gave an error message that the
> number is non-existent.
>
> Francoise Szigeti and I do want to participate. We will not be back
> to our base in Canada until mid-July.
>
> Gerald Davis, IFMA Fellow, ASTM Fellow, CFM, AIA
>
> [snip]
>

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