Joint DATA.GOV-ONTOLOG "Big Open Data" Session - Thu 2012_05_17    (3ANP)

Session Topic: "Implementing 'Big Open Data' in government through Open Collaboration - case examples and possibilities"    (3ANQ)

Session Co-chair: GeorgeThomas (HHS), JesseWang (SMWcon-Spring2012 / Vulcan) & PeterYim (Ontolog / CIM3) - slides    (3ANR)

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Abstract:    (3AZW)

Implementing 'Big Open Data' in government through Open Collaboration - case examples and possibilities    (3AZX)

This is the second of two sessions jointly organized by the US federal initiative and Ontolog; with the support from NYC-open-data, SMWcon-Spring2012, and OOR.    (3AZY)

The two sessions on 'Big Open Data' follows quite naturally from a few very exciting recent events, notably:    (3AZZ)

During today's session, we will look more closely on the technology and the implementation details that will make 'Big Open Data' work in government open data initiatives, and discuss how open collaborative community efforts can help.    (3B03)

Agenda:    (3B04)

Implementing 'Big Open Data' in government through Open Collaboration - case examples and possibilities    (3B05)

Proceedings:    (3B0H)

Please refer to the above    (3B0I)

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 Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.    (3B0L)
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	[09:21] PeterYim: Welcome to the    (3BEF)
	 = Joint DATA.GOV-ONTOLOG "Big Open Data" Session-II - Thu 2012-05-17 =    (3BEG)
	Session Topic: "Implementing 'Big Open Data' in government through Open Collaboration
	                - case examples and possibilities"    (3BEH)
	Session Co-chairs: 
	* GeorgeThomas ( / HHS)
	* JesseWang (SMWcon-Spring2012 / Vulcan) & 
	* PeterYim (Ontolog / CIM3)    (3BEI)
	Panel Briefings:    (3BEJ)
	* JoelNatividad (Ontodia) - "NYCFacets: Metadata, Extrametadata & Crowdknowing"
	* WilSmith (Vulcan) - "Linked Data Integration Framework"
	* StephenLarson (Neuroscience Information Framework) - "NeuroLex: A Semantic Wiki for Neuroscience"
	* JonWeers ( - "OpenEI: LOD Success Stories"
	* BernadetteHyland (W3C / 3RoundStones) 
	  - "A Linked Data Approach for Integrating Multi-scale Models & Data for Human Health & the Environment"
	* PeterYim, LeoObrst, MikeDean, KenBaclawski (OOR) - "Leveraging OOR in Big Open Data"    (3BEK)
	* Jeanne Holm ( / NASA-JPL), Chris Musialek ( / GSA) and Andrew Nicklin (New York City) 
	  from last week's panel will also be returning to join us on the panel as discussants at this session    (3BEL)
	Session page:    (3BEM)
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	 == Proceedings: ==    (3BEP)
	[09:15] anonymous morphed into GeorgeThomas    (3BEQ)
	[09:26] anonymous1 morphed into BernadetteHyland    (3BER)
	[09:28] anonymous11 morphed into WilSmith    (3BES)
	[09:29] anonymous2 morphed into TomTinsley    (3BET)
	[09:30] anonymous2 morphed into LinePouchard    (3BEU)
	[09:30] anonymous2 morphed into GaryBergCross    (3BEV)
	[09:31] anonymous3 morphed into BillNadal    (3BEW)
	[09:31] anonymous3 morphed into StephenLarson    (3BEX)
	[09:31] anonymous3 morphed into SpyrosKotoulas    (3BEY)
	[09:32] anonymous3 morphed into JakubMoskal    (3BEZ)
	[09:32] anonymous1 morphed into CJR    (3BF0)
	[09:33] anonymous1 morphed into BobPowers    (3BF1)
	[09:34] anonymous morphed into TedThibodeauJr    (3BF2)
	[09:34] anonymous morphed into LisaHartigan    (3BF3)
	[09:34] anonymous1 morphed into JohnGregory    (3BF4)
	[09:35] PeterYim:  -- session started 9:35am PDT --    (3BF5)
	[09:36] anonymous2: How do morph? anonymous 2 - Charlie Engle    (3BF6)
	[09:37] AmandaVizedom: Charlie - Hit "Settings" button at top, edit name.    (3BF7)
	[09:38] anonymous2 morphed into Charles Engle    (3BF8)
	[09:38] CharlesEngle: Thank you!    (3BF9)
	[09:38] AmandaVizedom: YW    (3BFA)
	[09:42] AmandaVizedom: Charles, one more hint: if you revise name again and make it one word 
	(CharlesEngle), in the transcript it will auto-link to your profile page on the OntologWiki.    (3BFB)
	[09:43] anonymous morphed into ElizabethFlorescu    (3BFC)
	[09:39] PeterYim: == JoelNatividad presenting ...    (3BFD)
	[09:53] PeterYim: == WilSmith presenting ...    (3BFE)
	[09:54] GeorgeThomas: Big Fan of LDIF!!    (3BFF)
	[09:55] GeorgeThomas: nice to see many of the LDIF tools in the LOD2 stack :)    (3BFG)
	[10:05] WilSmith: yea slowly pushing the rock of LDIF adoption up the mountain :)    (3BFH)
	[10:02] PeterYim: == StephenLarson presenting ...    (3BFI)
	[10:04] SimonSpero: (SunSITE set up a collaborative neuroscience environment using PARC's lamba-MOO 
	back in 1993) This looks better    (3BFJ)
	[10:19] JesseWang: LDIF has been used in Neurobase, a semantic wiki to integrate various sources of 
	neuroscience related data. The wiki is running at    (3BFK)
	[10:20] JesseWang: Recap of NeuroLex talk: NIF vision: Google for neuroscience databases.NeuroLex 
	uses semantic wiki to help integrate, curate and improve data quality (starting in vocabularies).    (3BFL)
	[10:20] PeterYim: [since JonWeers is not online yet] we are moving Bernadette's presentation up    (3BFM)
	[10:20] PeterYim: == BernadetteHyland presenting ...    (3BFN)
	[10:33] JackPark: looks really interesting    (3BFO)
	[10:35] GeorgeThomas:    (3BFP)
	[10:36] GeorgeThomas: the 'Health Datapalooza', as US Fed CTO Todd Park likes to say    (3BFQ)
	[11:30] FrankOlken: Bernadette, It is most unfortunate that the Health Data Initiative Forum meeting 
	is scheduled on top of SemTech (June 3~7, 2012 - San Francisco).    (3BFR)
	[10:42] anonymous1 morphed into EdDodds    (3BFS)
	[10:44] StephenLarson: Great presentation Bernadette! Definitely some areas of synergy between our 
	efforts!    (3BFT)
	[11:01] BernadetteHyland: @StephenLarson, thank and I would really enjoy speaking to you further 
	about your project experiences.    (3BFU)
	[11:02] StephenLarson: @Bernadette -- definitely -- lets touch base after    (3BFV)
	[10:43] PeterYim: == PeterYim, LeoObrst, MikeDean, KenBaclawski presenting ...    (3BFW)
	[10:44] anonymous1 morphed into BoNewman    (3BFX)
	[10:47] EdDodds: FYI: Announcing the next Knight News Challenge: Data -    (3BFY)
	[10:50] JackPark:    (3BFZ)
	[10:50] GaryBergCross: See also for the various EarthCube groups.    (3BG0)
	[11:08] EricChan: Ken mentioned about collaboration and social networking ontology ICOM (slide #9, 
	OOR), which is defined by OASIS ICOM TC. The committee specification draft is currently in 
	public review phase. We expect the TC to approve this draft as the Committee Specification of ICOM 
	v1 after the public review. Peter and I are nominating Ken to lead the effort for ICOM v2 to 
	incorporate social networking model.    (3BG1)
	[11:02] PeterYim: == panel reactions now ...    (3BG2)
	[11:02] LinePouchard: who is speaking please?    (3BG3)
	[11:02] BernadetteHyland: That is JeanneHolm ( evangelist/NASA)    (3BG4)
	[11:05] StephenLarson:    (3BG5)
	[11:03] PeterYim: I notice JonWeers is on the voice bridge now    (3BG6)
	[11:06] PeterYim: we'll try to move over to JonWeers OpenEI presentation right after this comment    (3BG7)
	[11:08] PeterYim: == JonWeers presenting ...    (3BG8)
	[11:40] JonWeers: Recaping phone convo: OpenEI is looking to host the second installment of an 
	Internation Effort to promote LOD and Open Government initiatives. Will be looking for participants, 
	and volunteers for organization. Feel free to contact me if interested.    (3BG9)
	[11:23] PeterYim: == open Q&A and discussion now ...    (3BGA)
	[11:23] BillNadal: great presentations, thank you! can anyone speak to the need/usage for rules in 
	their projects or frameworks; i.e. the use of SWRL or RIF (rule interchange format)?    (3BGB)
	[11:29] GeorgeThomas: starting to experiment with RIF impl's like - generally more interested in SPARQL centric approaches like though    (3BGC)
	[11:26] BillNadal: [ ref. various panelists' responses and PeterYim's suggestion to check out 
	ChrisWelty's RIF talk, and MartinOConnor's SWRL presentations on the 
	Ontolog Event Archives ] will do, thanks    (3BGD)
	[11:28] PeterYim: == Does the community want to move things forward, after these two "Big Open Data" 
	sessions? How?    (3BGE)
	[11:28] BoNewman: Most clearly would like to see this moved forward, only which I was in a position 
	to contribute    (3BGF)
	[11:30] GeorgeThomas: I have a hard stop at 2:30 - want to again say thanks to Peter and the Ontolog 
	Forum co-conveners for putting together a great session today - I'm happy to support any 
	collaboration going forward - please see my bio page if anyone wants to follow up with me    (3BGG)
	[11:30] MikeDean: I have to drop off for another telecon. Good session!    (3BGH)
	[11:31] LeoObrst: Thanks, all!    (3BGI)
	[11:31] BernadetteHyland: I suggested that future discussions around Big Data, Open Government Data 
	expressed as Linked Data, etc include sub-domains who can help guide use cases for the application 
	of semantic technologies.    (3BGJ)
	[11:31] EdDodds: Articles in the news recently articles related to Google's work: "Introducing the 
	Knowledge Graph: things, not strings" fwiw    (3BGK)
	[11:31] GeorgeThomas: Things not Strings! :)    (3BGL)
	[11:31] JesseWang: I have a 11:30 meeting, got to go, thank you all for all the great presentations 
	and discussion!    (3BGM)
	[11:32] PeterYim: @JesseWang - thank you for organizing this    (3BGN)
	[11:31] JackPark: great talks! Bye    (3BGO)
	[11:32] BernadetteHyland: This was a great forum and I learned some new things, thank you Peter, 
	George, Jesse et all for coordinating this event & inviting the panel of speakers. Much appreciated!    (3BGP)
	[11:32] anonymous1 morphed into JonWeers    (3BGQ)
	[11:32] BillNadal: Thanks George, great links    (3BGR)
	[11:34] BoNewman: I would be interested in hearing from those working in the area of 
	multi-perpspective ontologies and the automated identification of a person or organizationals 
	operational ontologies. bo.newman[at]    (3BGS)
	[11:36] PeterYim: @BernadetteHyland - speaking on the phone now, is RaviSharma    (3BGT)
	[11:35] EdDodds: [ref. RaviSharma's verbal remarks] Frame the discussion differently: not "return 
	on investment" but "return on innovation"    (3BGU)
	[11:39] EdDodds: Reid Hoffman could give numbers re: some of LinkedIn's data    (3BGV)
	[11:39] BernadetteHyland: @EdDodds, thanks, I'll reach out to Reid. Thank you    (3BGW)
	[11:40] EdDodds: and maybe the ushahidi communties could talk about 
	disasters mapping, etc.    (3BGX)
	[11:40] JonWeers: Recaping phone convo: OpenEI is looking to host the second installment of an 
	Internation Effort to promote LOD and Open Government initiatives. Will be looking for participants, 
	and volunteers for organization. Feel free to contact me if interested.    (3BGY)
	[11:40] StephenLarson: Thanks for organizing a great session. Honored to be a part of it!    (3BGZ)
	[11:41] JonWeers: Thank you everyone! My apologies for my late arrival.    (3BH0)
	[11:42] BernadetteHyland: I was hoping JeanneHolm would announce the upcoming International Open 
	Government Data Conference at the World Bank July 10-12, 2012. Since she must have had to drop off, 
	I forward this info FYR - They are accepting proposals for sessions and speakers now:    (3BH1)
	[11:42] PeterYim: Great session ... HUGE THANK YOU to all the presenters; and thanks, everyone, for 
	the participation!    (3BH2)
	[11:42] BernadetteHyland: Thank you!    (3BH3)
	[11:45] PeterYim: @Bernadette - Thank YOU for the great talk; and, of course the leadership in 
	moving things forward!    (3BH4)
	[11:41] PeterYim: -- session ended: 11:41am PDT --    (3BH5)
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