OpenOntologyRepository: "Revisiting the OOR Strategy and Tactics - II" Discussion Session - Tue 2013_06_18    (3TN0)

Session Topic: OOR Strategy-IV: "Revisiting the OOR Strategy and Tactics - II" Discussion    (3UNU)

Session Chair: PeterYim    (3UNV)

This is a continuation of the "Revisiting the OOR Strategy & Tactics - I" session - ref.: OOR/ConferenceCall_2013_05_28    (3TNG)

Conference Call Details:    (3U54)

Attendees:    (3U61)

Agenda Ideas:    (3U6I)

Agenda & Proceedings    (3U6O)

Archives:    (3U70)

1. Meeting called to order:    (3U75)

2. Roll Call:    (3U7A)

3. Key discussion:    (3U7D)

From the last (part-I) session ... please take a moment to review what has transpired (mainly for 3.1) - see:    (3U7E)

most of the content below are inherited from the previous call(s), and will be edited/updated as this meeting progresses ...    (3U7U)

4. Prior Discussions:    (3U8P)

4.1 Discussion: tactically, what shall we be doing differently in the next 6 to 12 months    (3U8Q)

4.2 Setting the metrics - what does "success" look like    (3U8W)

4.3 Action planning for "content drive" (getting people to upload ontologies) ... (deferred discussion of this item)    (3U8X)

5. IM Chat Transcript captured during the session:    (3U9P)

 see raw transcript here.    (3U9Q)
 (for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)
 Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.    (3U9R)
 -- begin in-session chat-transcript --    (3U9S)
 	Chat transcript from room: oor_20130618
 	2013-06-18 GMT-08:00 [PDT]
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 	[8:26] PeterYim: welcome to the    (3UEA)
	 = OpenOntologyRepository: "Revisiting the OOR Strategy and Tactics - II" Discussion Session - Tue 2013_06_18 =    (3UEB)
	session page:    (3UEC)
	Attendees: PeterYim (chair), BobSmith, KenBaclawski, MichaelGruninger, TillMossakowski, ToddSchneider    (3UED)
	 == Proceedings: ==    (3UEE)
	[8:30] PeterYim: Hi Michael!    (3UEF)
	[8:30] MichaelGruninger: just connecting now ...    (3UEG)
	[8:30] PeterYim: take your time    (3UEH)
	[8:37] PeterYim: Hi Bob, Hi Till ...    (3UEI)
	[8:39] BobSmith: (ref. casual discussion, that our focus today is on "what needs to change, in the 
	way we are proceeding with the OOR initiative") Peter - I appologize for not having an anwswer - BUT 
	do you have a "Business Case" for the "OOR - Go To Place for Ontology"?    (3UEJ)
	[8:41] BobSmith: NIST, Building & Fire under Mark Palmer, delivered 3 reports on the need for 
	interoperability (i.e. Ontology) in the Capital Building part of a Business Case 
	motivation    (3UEK)
	[8:40] PeterYim: == Session starts ...    (3UEL)
	[8:40] PeterYim: currentattendees: BobSmith, MichaelGruninger, PeterYim, TillMossakowski, 
	ToddSchneider    (3UEM)
	[8:41] PeterYim: let's start at:    (3UEN)
	[8:42] PeterYim: (for the next 3 minutes) please read through where we got ourselves to, in last 
	session's SWOT analysis:    (3UEO)
	[8:50] PeterYim: == In the next few minutes, let's try to answer (please type in your view on: What 
	should we "change" and "not change" in the way the OOR initiative is being approached ...    (3UEP)
	[8:51] ToddSchneider: Are we addressing the correct problem (for the current time frame)?    (3UEQ)
	[8:51] BobSmith: No business case?    (3UER)
	[8:52] PeterYim: I think we should fundamentally change our approach ... and strive towards getting 
	a formidable Ontology Repository in place first before trying to tackle the more challenging 
	problems (like research problems) ... and, by "formidable" I mean the repository would actually hold 
	a lot (if not "most") of the ontologies people are looking for    (3UES)
	[8:51] MichaelGruninger: I will reiterate my earlier point -- we should move to a bottom-up strategy 
	in which we address the OOR issues in the currently active projects (OntoHub, COLORE, ...), and then 
	come together to identify how we can best coordinate work, share ideas, and reuse implementations    (3UET)
	[8:54] TillMossakowski: I agree with Michael that after a more "top-down" approach we now should 
	become more "bottom-up"    (3UEU)
	[8:55] BobSmith: Consider a group of 5-6 teams writing a standard and some believe that an ontology 
	based standard was a good Ontology Committee is created to develop coherent taxonomy 
	around the term Building Life Cycle Phases. A rough Statement of Work is developed. HOW MIGHT a well 
	formed OOR support this initiative? Somewhat like an REI Outdoors store - a variety of kinds of 
	reusable components and a life cycle like road map (From the 2013 Communique?)    (3UEV)
	[9:05] ToddSchneider: One advantage BioPortal has is a single domain that actively embraces 
	ontology. Should we focus on a single domain? For instance geospatial?    (3UEW)
	[9:05] TillMossakowski: We actually want to build, for spatial ontologies    (3UEX)
	[9:06] MichaelGruninger: The key is to ensure that each of the ontology repository projects in OOR 
	are interoperable from the software perspective, uniform in the GUI, and they use a shared approach 
	to ontology metadata    (3UEY)
	[9:08] MichaelGruninger: Peter's idea: make to be an ontology registry, which then links to 
	the ontologies in the actual ontology repository where the ontology is described    (3UEZ)
	[9:13] MichaelGruninger: In COLORE, we use as the root URI for the ontologies    (3UF0)
	[9:14] TillMossakowski: discussion of Ontohub URI scheme:    (3UF1)
	[9:15] TillMossakowski: look at    (3UF2)
	[9:21] TillMossakowski: we have several OOR related discussions at I will forward these 
	to the OOR mailing list    (3UF3)
	[9:21] PeterYim: @Till - are you willing to go with in place of    (3UF4)
	[9:22] TillMossakowski: yes    (3UF5)
	[9:22] PeterYim: thanks, Till    (3UF6)
	[9:24] TillMossakowski: paper about Ontohub architecture:    (3UF7)
	[9:25] TillMossakowski: ^    (3UF8)
	[9:35] PeterYim: priority, should then be: metadata, API and gatekeeping    (3UF9)
	[9:43] ToddSchneider: Michael, as a design principle, avoid details until the last possible moment.    (3UFA)
	[9:47] PeterYim: let's aim at getting these 3 top priorities addressed in the next 3 months    (3UFB)
	[9:48] PeterYim: ... and then start addressing the content issue when these (metadata, API and 
	gatekeeping) are in place    (3UFC)
	[9:35] TillMossakowski: sorry, have to leave now - I am already half an hour late for my next 
	meeting. Peter, Ken: could we let the OOR API session next week start at 10:00am EDT / 4:00pm CEST ?    (3UFD)
	[9:53] ToddSchneider: Have to go. Cheers.    (3UFE)
	[9:53] BobSmith: Failed to load:    (3UFF)
	[9:54] PeterYim: [consensus] regular OOR meeting is now shifted (1.5 hours earlier than before) - 
	confcall times will be on Tuesdays 7:00am PDT / 10:00am EDT / 4:00 pm CEST / 1400 UTC    (3UFG)
	[9:56] PeterYim: next meeting: "Ontohub-OOR-Gatekeeper API Hackathon" session - co-chairs: 
	TillMossakowski & KenBaclawski - Tue 2013.06.25 1.5~2.0 Hrs. starting 7:00am PDT / 10:00am EDT / 4:00 pm 
	CEST / 1400 UTC    (3UFH)
	[9:56] PeterYim: very productive session!    (3UFI)
	[9:57] PeterYim: -- session ended: 9:54am PDT --    (3UFJ)
 -- end in-session chat-transcript --    (3U9T)

6. Action items:    (3U9U)

7. Any Other Business:    (3U9W)

8. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:    (3U9Z)

 notes taken by: PeterYim / 2013.06.18-6:39pm PDT
 All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.    (3UA5)

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