OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Team Conference Call - Fri 2008-06-06 (1HXD)
OpenOntologyRepository team conference call, Fri 2008.06.06, 1.0~1.5 Hr. call starting 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 UTC (1IM2)
Conference Call Details: (1IM3)
- Date: Friday, June 6, 2008 (1IM4)
- Start Time: 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 UTC (1IM5)
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Attendees (1IMR)
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Agenda Ideas (1IMZ)
- Mike: walkthru of some Java interfaces and shell classes that could form the basis for an initial OOR implementation based on the roadmap presented at Ontology Summit 2008. (1IRK)
- Peter / Leo / Mike: a possible "Synergies and Gaps" panel session - Jun-13 or Jun-20? (1IRL)
- Peter: establishing our short-term action plans (1IN3)
(please insert your suggested agenda items here) (1IN0)
Agenda & Proceedings (1IRM)
1. Meeting called to order: (1IRN)
- MikeDean takes the chair and welcomed everyone (1IRO)
- PeterYim volunteers to take minutes of the meeting (1IRP)
- review and adopt agenda (1IRQ)
2. Roll Call: (1IRR)
3. Status Review and Discussion: (1IRT)
- Urgent issues: (1IRU)
- Outstanding Issue review/update: (from last call) (1IRV)
- populate - OOR/ActiveMemberContribution (1IRW)
- Logistics and Communications (1IRX)
- the emerging BuildingServicePerformance team is having a CWE System walkthrough/tutorial session later today. Everyone is welcome to join them. See: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?BuildingServicePerformance/ConferenceCall_2008_06_06_CweSystemWalkThrough (1IRY)
- Discussions: (1IRZ)
Further to the discussion at our May-9 call and subsequent announcement, breakout subgroups will report back on their discussions/recommendations in the following four major areas: (1IS0)
- Short-term Planning - MikeDean (1IS1)
- (from our last call) Revisiting MikeDean's proposed roadmap (1IS2)
- see slides #55~64 of our 2008.04.29-OOR-presentation (1IS3)
- Mike's update: (1IV6)
- Our subgroup - MikeDean, LeoObrst and PeterYim - conferred on 2008.05.30 (1IWV)
- notes from that meeting can be found under: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OpenOntologyRepository_Plan/ShortTermPlan_Strawman0805#nid1IAM (1IWW)
- BBN has agreed to put some resources into the OOR project, Mike and a couple of his BBN colleagues are putting some tim into it now (1IV7)
- we will use SemWebCentral <http://oor.projects.semwebcentral.org> to host the development project (1IV8)
- this is running on GForge and is operated/supported by BBN (1IV9)
- Our subgroup - MikeDean, LeoObrst and PeterYim - conferred on 2008.05.30 (1IWV)
- walkthru of some Java interfaces and shell classes that could form the basis for an initial OOR implementation based on the roadmap presented at Ontology Summit 2008. (1IS4)
- see under: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OOR/OOR-prototype--MikeDean_20080606/ go to 'doc' (1IV5)
- Ravi and Tood suggestions: update, versioning, semantic search, rule-based, auto-negotiated policy, ontology download, ... (1IVL)
- Kate: mapping to requirements and use cases (K has a mapping tool that may help) ... (1IVH)
- including UML? ... will take this up with our OMG folks (Evan, Elisa, et al.) (1IVM)
- ALL: Great job, Mike! (1IVN)
- probably need a session for Mike to present this to a larger audience and then allow people to provide comments and feedback via the [oor-forum] list ... we'll try to set this up (1IVI)
- Peter: CIM3 has agreed to provide initial infrastructure support, and has assigning a server for the OOR project (a 64-bit quad cpu SMP x86 server with 16 GB memory, running CentOS 5.1) ... it is online now (canonical name: douge.cim3.com) which I will probably call <oor.cim3.net> ... we can map OpenOntologyReporsitory.org and OpenOntologyReporsitory.net to that when we are a bit more ready. (1IVA)
- Michelle: Honeywell is also assigning a server that will be used for the BuildingServicePerformance and possibly the OOR projects. I have a proposal in, which I will have an outcome in two weeks (1IVS)
- (from our last call) Revisiting MikeDean's proposed roadmap (1IS2)
- Resource & Funding - KenBaclawski (1IS6)
- from previous calls: (1IS7)
- possibilities - government agencies (NSF?, NIST?, whoever would fund open infrastructure, DARPA, IARPA (Jeff), ... etc.); EU funders; Vulcan (Mark)?; bring in W3C in a exploratory (XG) working group (e.g. Semantic Web Deployment) (although they are a funding sink rather than a funding source; but good for visibility); T (1IS8)
- grant proposal team(s) / submit proposal(s) to (1IS9)
- Frank: NSF next solicitations due July-1, interop, data network partners, programs coming back (1ISA)
- consider NSF-OCI (Office of Cyber Infrastructure) (1ISB)
- try contacting Todd Hughes and see if DARPA is a possibility (Leo) (1ISC)
- Peter: consider multiple smalls proposals and a big one ($20 million +/-) to make OOR a sustainable OOR operation (1ISD)
- consider Foundations, and institutions (1ISE)
- Fabian: the climate at NIST (now that they are hosting the summit on this particular theme) would be conducive ... we should ping Steve on this. (1ISF)
- we should set aside some off-line time to discuss this when some of us are at the summit F2F, which did not happen. (1ISG)
- Peter is working (offline; exploratory, and not considered part of the OOR team activities) on setting up a brainstorming call between established grantees and agencies who may be supportive of this endeavor - still outstanding; will share relevant results with this group after that has happened, as appropriate. -- this is still outstanding (1ISH)
- possibilities - government agencies (NSF?, NIST?, whoever would fund open infrastructure, DARPA, IARPA (Jeff), ... etc.); EU funders; Vulcan (Mark)?; bring in W3C in a exploratory (XG) working group (e.g. Semantic Web Deployment) (although they are a funding sink rather than a funding source; but good for visibility); T (1IS8)
- Ken: will report progress at next call (1ISI)
- from previous calls: (1IS7)
- Use Cases & Requirements - K_Goodier with RaviSharma, PeterYim, ToddSchneider & FrankAlvidrez (1ISJ)
- from previous calls: (1ISK)
- soliciting 'early adopter' partners who can offer up their ontologies, help refine requirements, and provide user feedback. (1ISL)
- the immediate people should be projects represented by those the two joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Requirements panel discussion sessions (3/27 & 4/3/2008) (1ISM)
- K: we had a phone call Mon 2008.05.19 to kick-off the discussion (1ISN)
- some of the outcomes are captured at: OpenOntologyRepository_Requirement (1ISO)
- we want to make sure things map back to earlier discussions on requirements (1ISP)
- will create a template for harnessing early adopters who will provide us with use cases (1ISQ)
- K: will try to have another subgroup meeting next week ... members to email K their availability (1IVO)
- from previous calls: (1ISK)
- Organization & Process - PeterYim (1ISR)
- from previous calls: (1ISS)
- need to clearly identify team membership: active members vs. observers; and, more importantly, who are voting (decision making) members? (1IST)
- Active members: those who will be (a) building the OOR, and (b) those who will be early adopters with content (open ontologies) AND have specific requirement input to provide -- does that sound good? (Yes: Peter, Bruce, Fabian) (1ISU)
- on suggestion from Ravi / 2008.05.23 - clarifying: group (a) to include those contributing to infrastructure, code development, architecture design, etc. (1ISV)
- will need to deliberate on this when we have more people on the call ... and/or doing it through the mailing list (1ISW)
- Active members: those who will be (a) building the OOR, and (b) those who will be early adopters with content (open ontologies) AND have specific requirement input to provide -- does that sound good? (Yes: Peter, Bruce, Fabian) (1ISU)
- how shall we organize ourselves? ... sub-workgroups? how many? <--(discussion deferred to next meeting) (1ISX)
- relationship to Ontolog? sponsors? funders? (1ISY)
- discussion postponed until we have a clearer approach toward funding (1ISZ)
- need to clearly identify team membership: active members vs. observers; and, more importantly, who are voting (decision making) members? (1IST)
- from previous calls: (1ISS)
- (1IT0)
- Peter: some thoughts on process: (1IT1)
- in view of MikeDean's proposed roadmap, I think (a proposition here) that notion may have to morph into something like: (1IT2)
- (i) a set of recommendations, which the summit Communique now serves ... maybe with additions that others on the team, mainly early adopters, may further propose; (1IT3)
- (ii) which then translates to a set of (somewhat coordinator, but modularized) implementation tasks ... again, maybe with additions that others on the team, mainly implementors, may further propose; (1IT4)
- (iii) then implementor (or implementation subgroups) will step up and "own" particular modularized task, and move ahead in a open source development mode, using a transparent process while doing so. (1IT5)
- in view of MikeDean's proposed roadmap, I think (a proposition here) that notion may have to morph into something like: (1IT2)
- Peter: Adding a few key content pages ... the suite looks as follows (now): (1IT6)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Scope (1IT7)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Organization (1IT8)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Process (1IT9)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Policy (1ITA)
- OpenOntologyRepository_IPR (1ITB)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Requirement (1ITC)
- OpenOntologyRepository_UseCases (1ITD)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Architecture (1ITE)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Approach (1ITF)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Roadmap (1ITG)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Plan (1ITH)
- Peter: some thoughts on process: (1IT1)
- (new) To be organized -- (1ITI)
- Panel sessions seems to have been effective (ref the four joint OOR-Summit panel sessions in Mar & Apr-2008 prior to the Summit F2F). There considering having one, fairly soon, with those on the team who are supplying the already available technologies that we will build off from. (1ITJ)
- This could be a session on "Synergies and Gaps" (1ITK)
- parties we (Peter / Leo / Mike) have in mind, currently, include: (1ITL)
- DAML (1IVF)
- BioPortal (include OMV as they are already in collaboration) (1ITM)
- NeOn / OMV (1IVT)
- CODS (1IVG)
- XMDR (1ITN)
- OMG (1ITO)
- CL (working group) (1IVB)
- BBN (1ITP)
- CIM3 (1ITQ)
- anyone else we missed? ... please suggest (1ITR)
- folk(s) from RPI (--ppy/md/lo/2008.06.21) (1JM4)
- Honeywell? (upon confirmation from Michelle ... which she will add to http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ActiveMemberContribution#nid183H when Honeywell commits) (1IVU)
- given that Mike's prototype is now available, we could use that as a springboard and do this discussion session as a "Prototype Review: Synergies & Gaps" session -- Peter will try putting that on the calendar on an earliest possible date. (1JM5)
- Panel sessions seems to have been effective (ref the four joint OOR-Summit panel sessions in Mar & Apr-2008 prior to the Summit F2F). There considering having one, fairly soon, with those on the team who are supplying the already available technologies that we will build off from. (1ITJ)
4. New Issues: (1ITS)
5. Any Other Business: (1ITT)
- From our last call: (1ITU)
- ToddSchneider raised some questions trying to clarify how private companies may participate (when they have both open and close contents) ... Peter suggested some answers, by drawing upon some of the proposed ideas in MikeDean's presentation at the summit F2F. (1ITV)
- Todd and Ravi would also go back to the OntologySummit2008_Communique to see if enough flexibility is left open in the Communique ... and tell us what they think at the next call. (1ITW)
- Peter: anyhow, it should be noted that the Communique only forms an important reference, and not a mandate, for the open development work for the OOR community. (1ITX)
- ToddSchneider raised some questions trying to clarify how private companies may participate (when they have both open and close contents) ... Peter suggested some answers, by drawing upon some of the proposed ideas in MikeDean's presentation at the summit F2F. (1ITV)
6. Action items: (1ITY)
- Ravi: (1IW3)
- volunteering to help MikeDean on Documentation on OOR (Implementation at our ONTOLOG URL: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OOR/OOR-prototype--MikeDean_20080606/doc/ and also at GForge open source repository Shown by MikeDean)as suggested by ToddSchneider (1IVQ) (1IW0)
- RaviSharma Suggested Addition of Update and Versioning functionality in OOR implementation of Mike Dean. Also UML as potential future language addition to use ODM OMG Functionality, Export XMI functions and Depictions of Ontologies in UML Models etc. Also Agreed by RexBrooks (1IVR) (1IW1)
- Use case and Requirements links to Mike's implementation as suggested by Kate and Agreed by Mike. (1IW2)
7. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn: (1IU0)
- Next Meeting: (1IU1)
- next OOR-team meeting Fri 2008.06.20 - 1.0~1.5 Hr. starting 12:00noon EDT / 9:00am PDT - see (closer to the time): OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_06_20 - ??? depending on whether this will conflict with the developing "Synergies and Gaps" panel session. Will confirm via the [oor-forum] list (1IU2)
- Note: earlier resolution: all team members please (if possible) block out Fridays 1.5 Hr starting 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 GMT/UTC (1IU3)
- Call adjourned at: 10:31 am PDT (1IU4)
-- notes taken by: PeterYim / 2008.06.06-10:31am PDT All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings. (1IU5)
Resources (1IU6)
- homepage - OpenOntologyRepository (1IU7)
- proceedings of our previous meetings (1IU8)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_01_23 (1IU9)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_02_13 (1IUA)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_05 (1IUB)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_14 (1IUC)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_03_21 (1IUD)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_04_04 (1IUE)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_04_18 (1IUF)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_05_09 (1IUG)
- OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_05_23 (1IUH)
- OOR Charter - To promote the global use and sharing of ontologies by: 1. establishing a hosted registry-repository; 2. enabling and facilitating open, federated, collaborative ontology repositories; 3. establishing best practices for expressing interoperable ontology and taxonomy work in registry-repositories. (1IUI)
- "Ontology Repository" Definition - "An ontology repository is a facility where ontologies and related information artifacts can be stored, retrieved and managed" (1IUJ)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Scope - documentation related to this OOR initiative's mission, charter, objectives, goals, terms of reference, definitions, scope, ... etc. (1IUK)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Requirement - documentation related to the requirements of the "open ontology repository" we are planning to implement through this OOR initiative. (1IUL)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Approach - documentation related to this OOR initiative's approach, and the process we will be using. (1IUN)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Architecture - documentation related to the architecture of the "open ontology repository" we are planning to implement through this OOR initiative. (1IUO)
- OpenOntologyRepository_Plan (1IUP)
- OOR/ActiveMemberContribution (1IUQ)
- [ oor-forum ] discussion archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-forum/ (1IUR)
- the four joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussions: (1IUS)
- 2008_02_28 - Thursday: Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion: "Ontology Registry and Repository Technology & Infrastructure Landscape" - Co-chairs: LeoObrst & FrankOlken; Panelists: BruceBargmeyer, MikeDean, MarkMusen, FarrukhNajmi & PeterYim - ConferenceCall_2008_02_28 T (1IUT)
- 2008_03_27 - Thursday: Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion: "An Open Ontology Repository: Rationale, Expectations & Requirements - Session-1" - Chair: LeoObrst & FabianNeuhaus; Panelists: WilliamBug, EvanWallace, JohnLMcCarthy, KenBaclawski, PeterBenson & RexBrooks - ConferenceCall_2008_03_27 T (1IUU)
- 2008_04_03 - Thursday: Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion: "An Open Ontology Repository: Rationale, Expectations & Requirements - Session-2" - Chair: LeoObrst & FabianNeuhaus; Panelists: DougLenat, DekeSmith, MarciaZeng, DeniseBedford, PatHayes, MalaMehrotra & RobRaskin - ConferenceCall_2008_04_03 T (1IUV)
- 2008_04_10 - Thursday: Joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Panel Discussion: "Developing an Ontology of Ontologies for OOR" - Co-chairs: BarrySmith & MichaelGruninger; Panelists: MichaelGruninger, PeterHaase, NatashaNoy & ElisaKendall - ConferenceCall_2008_04_10 T (1IUW)
- OntologySummit2008 homepage (1IUX)
- OntologySummit2008_Communique (1IUY)
- OntologySummit2008/FaceToFaceAgenda (1IUZ)
- [ ontology-summit ] discussion archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/ (1IV0)