OntologySummit2014 session-12: Synthesis-II: Technical Tracks and Hackathon - Thu 2014-04-03    (4B8K)

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OntologySummit2014 Session-12: "Synthesis-II" - overview slides    (4B9J)

This is our 9th OntologySummit, a joint initiative by Ontolog, NIST, NCOR, NCBO, IAOA & NCO_NITRD with the support of our co-sponsors.    (4B9K)

Since the beginnings of the Semantic Web, ontologies have played key roles in the design and deployment of new semantic technologies. Yet over the years, the level of collaboration between the Semantic Web and Applied Ontology communities has been much less than expected. Within Big Data applications, ontologies appear to have had little impact.    (4B9L)

This year's Ontology Summit is an opportunity for building bridges between the Semantic Web, Linked Data, Big Data, and Applied Ontology communities. On the one hand, the Semantic Web, Linked Data, and Big Data communities can bring a wide array of real problems (such as performance and scalability challenges and the variety problem in Big Data) and technologies (automated reasoning tools) that can make use of ontologies. On the other hand, the Applied Ontology community can bring a large body of common reusable content (ontologies) and ontological analysis techniques. Identifying and overcoming ontology engineering bottlenecks is critical for all communities.    (4B9M)

OntologySummit2014 will pose and address the primary challenges in these areas of interaction among the different communities. The Summit activities will bring together insights and methods from these different communities, synthesize new insights, and disseminate knowledge across field boundaries.    (4B9N)

At the Launch Event on 16 Jan 2014, the organizing team has provided an overview of the program, and how we will be framing the discourse - namely, to pursue that along four different content tracks that address different aspects of the issue at hand.    (4B9O)

In today's session, we will roll up what has transpired in the OntologySummit2014 proceedings so far, after two rounds of technical panel sessions that revolved around the four aspects, as designated in the foci for Tracks A, B, C & D, as well as the delivery of Six (6) Hackathon Projects (our Track E effort). Track champions will present the syntheses of the discourse of each of the four content tracks and a summary of the Hackathon effort. Write-ups of the syntheses will contribute to what will go into this year's Communique.    (4B9P)

One of our co-lead Editors will then moderate an open discussion, among the Track Champions and All Participants, on how we can optimally fit the syntheses material into the adopted Communique outline, and aim towards arriving at consensus positions that we would want to assume in this year's communique, as a community.    (4B9Q)

More details about this OntologySummit is available at: OntologySummit2014 (homepage for this summit)    (4B9R)

Track Syntheses Material    (4BE5)

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OntologySummit2014 - Panel Session-12    (4B9T)

Proceedings:    (4BA5)

Please refer to the above    (4BA6)

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	[9:12] PeterYim: Welcome to the    (4BGS)
	 = OntologySummit2014 session-12: Synthesis-II: Technical Tracks and Hackathon - Thu 2014-04-03 =    (4BGT)
	Summit Theme: OntologySummit2014: "Big Data and Semantic Web Meet Applied Ontology"    (4BGU)
	Session Topic: OntologySummit2014 Synthesis-II on the Technical Tracks and the Hackathon    (4BGV)
	Session Co-chairs: Dr. LeoObrst and Professor MichaelGruninger    (4BGW)
	Program:    (4BGX)
	* Professor MichaelGruninger - "Semantic Web and Big Data Meets Applied Ontology - Thoughts on Summit 2014"    (4BGY)
	* Dr. GaryBergCross, Ms. AndreaWesterinen, Mr. MikeBennett (in absentia) 
	  - Track A: Common Reusable Semantic Content - Synthesis-II    (4BGZ)
	* Dr. ChristophLange, Professor AlanRector (in absentia) 
	  - Track B: Making use of Ontologies: Tools, Services, and Techniques - Synthesis-II    (4BH0)
	* Dr. MatthewWest, Professor PascalHitzler, Professor KrzysztofJanowicz (in absentia) 
	  - Track C: Overcoming Ontology Engineering Bottlenecks - Synthesis-II    (4BH1)
	* Professor AnneThessen, Professor KenBaclawski (in absentia) 
	  - Track D: Tackling the Variety Problem in Big Data - Synthesis-II    (4BH2)
	* Mr. AnatolyLevenchuk, Mr. DanBrickley 
	  - Track E: A Summary Report on the Hackathon Projects, especially on what's pertinent to the Communique    (4BH3)
	* Dr. LeoObrst (moderator) - Open Discussion on ideas to optimally fit the above material into the adopted 
	                             Communique outline, and the positions we want to assume in this year's communique    (4BH4)
	Logistics:    (4BH5)
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	Attendees: AleksandraSojic, AlexShkotin, AmandaVizedom, AnatolyLevenchuk, AndreaWesterinen, 
	AnneThessen, BobbinTeegarden, CalvinLiu, CarmenChui, ChristiKapp, ChristophLange, ConradBeaulieu, 
	DennisPierson, DominiqueMariko, EdBernot, FrancescaQuattri, FrankOlken, GaryBergCross, HaroldBoley, 
	JackRing, JoanneLuciano, KenBaclawski, LamarHenderson, LeoObrst, LesMorgan, LianaKiff, 
	MarcelaVegetti, MariaHerrero, MarkLinehan, MartinDavtyan, MatthewWest, MichaelGruninger, MikeDean, 
	MikeRiben, NancyWiegand, PeterYim, RamSriram, RichardMartin, SiewLam, SimonSpero, SundayOjo, 
	TerryLongstreth, TillMossakowski, TorstenHahmann, VictorAgroskin,    (4BHB)
	Err:510    (4BHC)
	[9:29] anonymous morphed into CarmenChui    (4BHD)
	[9:29] AlexShkotin: Hi All!    (4BHE)
	[9:29] anonymous1 morphed into SiewLam    (4BHF)
	[9:32] EdBernot: Good day/night!    (4BHG)
	[9:32] GaryBergCross: Hello, Track A is here...    (4BHH)
	[9:33] anonymous1 morphed into ConradBeaulieu    (4BHI)
	[9:33] anonymous morphed into LesMorgan    (4BHJ)
	[9:34] anonymous morphed into FrancescaQuattri    (4BHK)
	[9:36] anonymous morphed into MarkLinehan    (4BHL)
	[9:37] anonymous1 morphed into LamarHenderson    (4BHM)
	[9:37] PeterYim: == MichaelGruninger starts session on behalf of the co-chairs ... see slides under: 
	http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2014_04_03#nid4B8Z    (4BHN)
	[9:46] AlexShkotin: If we split ontology to theory and model. Theory can't be Big. Model can.    (4BHO)
	[9:48] anonymous morphed into BobbinTeegarden    (4BHP)
	[9:49] FrankOlken: Do we need to register for the face to face meeting of Ontology Summit 2014?    (4BHQ)
	[9:49] GaryBergCross: Yes    (4BHR)
	[9:59] LeoObrst: @FrankOlken [12:49]: yes, see: 
	http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014/WorkshopRegistration    (4BHS)
	[9:49] anonymous morphed into JoanneLuciano    (4BHT)
	[9:51] MatthewWest: Communique Outline: Barriers and Bottlenecks: I suggest adding opportunities for 
	automation (a way of overcoming bottlenecks).    (4BHU)
	[9:52] MichaelGruninger: @MatthewWest [9:51] yes, we should have a subsection on overcoming the bottlenecks    (4BHV)
	[9:51] PeterYim: == GaryBergCross presenting on "Common Reusable Semantic Content: Synthesis-II" on behalf of the Track-A co-champions ...    (4BHW)
	[9:58] anonymous morphed into DominiqueMariko    (4BHX)
	[9:58] anonymous1 morphed into CalvinLiu    (4BHY)
	[10:00] AmandaVizedom: Slide #9 Condition 2: that "standard metadata for reuse be defined" -- is 
	precisely the condition that the VOCREF hackathon aimed to address, by getting the foundations in 
	place of an open-source, collaboratively developed ontology of the wide range of metadata that 
	people may need in order to determine whether a given ontology (or other semantic resource) is 
	reusable for their purpose.    (4BHZ)
	[10:02] GaryBergCross: @Amanda [10:00] comment - Great to know the hackathon will help contribute to 
	understanding on the ontology metadata.    (4BI0)
	[10:03] AmandaVizedom: @Gary [10:02] We hope so!    (4BI1)
	[10:07] AndreaWesterinen: @AmandaVizedom [10:00] That is why I added the slide about VOCREF. Sorry 
	that I was not online at the time. Blame Comcast :-)    (4BI2)
	[10:09] AmandaVizedom: AndreaWesterinen [10:07] Gary was necessarily going very quickly & touched 
	really only on the meta-characteristics of the hackathon approach, not so much the content; I added 
	the comment at [10:00] just to supplement. :-)    (4BI3)
	[10:00] PeterYim: == ChristophLange presenting on "Making use of Ontologies: Tools, Services, and 
	Techniques: Synthesis-II" on behalf of the Track-B co-champions ...    (4BI4)
	[10:03] PeterYim: @ChristophLange - [re: slide#2] I don't think we can equate "heavyweight 
	approaches to semantic web services have failed" with "heavyweight approaches will fail ... " (as 
	you verbally pronounced)    (4BI5)
	[10:07] TorstenHahmann: Regarding ChristophLange's "heavyweight" comment and PeterYim's correction, 
	I would go even further: does the observation that heavyweight ontologies are currently not used 
	really means they have failed? Maybe we just haven't found the right way of using them yet?    (4BI6)
	[10:11] ChristophLange: Re @PeterYim, @TorstenHahmann about "heavyweight": OntoIOp (about 
	which I'm biased of course because I'm involved) hopes to strike a balance between "lightweight" 
	and "heavyweight" in that it adopts lightweight linked data principles but also enables translations 
	across heavyweight ontology languages.    (4BI7)
	[10:12] LeoObrst: @[10:07] TorstenHahmann: I think richer (heavyweight) ontologies are very useful 
	for certain kinds of applications, but in general not for online linked-data uses, because of many 
	issues, including the temporal cost of computing/reasoning on the fly, etc.    (4BI8)
	[10:19] TorstenHahmann: @ChristophLange and @LeoOrbst: I certainly agree: rich ontologies will not 
	solve all linked data problems, e.g., rich ontologies are not suitable for on-the-fly reasoning (as 
	you mentioned). But they may still have their place in the larger setting of big & linked data. For 
	example, they can be useful as tools to integrate & generate appropriate lightweight schemas (from 
	rich ontologies).    (4BI9)
	[10:19] TorstenHahmann: As Christoph mentioned, striking the right balance is important.    (4BIA)
	[10:09] GaryBergCross: I didn't use the phrase lightweight ontologies in the track A synthesis, but we should.    (4BIB)
	[10:06] ... AndreaWesterinen: Sorry to be late. Finally got my cable modem to work for more than 5 mins.    (4BIC)
	[10:08] ... MarcelaVegetti: Sorry for my late join. Is there any problem with skype joinconference? 
	I can't connect to the audio session    (4BID)
	[10:09] ... PeterYim: @MarcelaVegetti - skype issues may be more local ... we've got plenty of skype 
	participants online now - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2014_04_03#nid4B66    (4BIE)
	[10:11] ... MarcelaVegetti: thanks @Peter. Problem solved. I'm now connected    (4BIF)
	[10:09] PeterYim: == MatthewWest presenting on "Overcoming Ontology Engineering Bottlenecks: Synthesis-II" on behalf of the Track-C co-champions ...    (4BIG)
	[10:12] anonymous morphed into LamarHenderson    (4BIH)
	[10:16] JackRing: Has anyone devised an ontology regarding 'about ontologies' wherein we might find 
	factors such as purpose, reuse, lattice, perspectives (designer, user, reused, etc.), size, degree 
	of complexness, modularity, etc.?    (4BII)
	[10:20] AndreaWesterinen: @JackRing [10:16] I would like to evolve VOCREF into such an ontology.    (4BIJ)
	[10:23] AmandaVizedom: Yes, Jack [10:16], VOCREF of course doesn't cover all of this YET, after 1 
	weekend hackathon, but it does already cover some, and others are identified as to-do in the issue 
	tracker, and more should be added. That's precisely where we want it to go, as Andrea said [13:20]. 
	It is now stood up for continuing, collaborative, open-source-style development.    (4BIK)
	[10:17] JackRing: Slide 8, Test, test, test is grossly inadequate, c.f., the dismal results of software test.    (4BIL)
	[10:23] GaryBergCross: @MatthewWest [re. slide#9] On this "The first priority is identity (same name 
	same thing) not semantics" Do we have the same things without semantics?    (4BIM)
	[10:30] MatthewWest: @GaryBergCross - Some of my friends talk about "a list of famous names". At the 
	base level, you don't even have definitions of terms, which can lead to ambiguity. So a set of terms 
	with text definitions (intended interpretations) is actually quite useful.    (4BIN)
	[10:34] GaryBergCross: @MatthewWest, the term with text discussion sound like something to establish 
	an informal conceptual space, but people involved in this exchange have some interpretation using 
	their internal semantics. What I take it you mean is no attempt at formal semantics.    (4BIO)
	[10:25] FrancescaQuattri: "why are ontologies in English?" (from Matthew's slide#12). This opens up 
	a huge market / demand for reusability of ontologies as developed into other languages other than 
	English, and highlights the point of translation reliability / bottlenecks in translation of 
	ontologies. Should we maybe also present the topic as a "challenge"?    (4BIP)
	[10:28] AlexShkotin: We have ontology in English and Russian with equivalentClasses for terms - it works:-)    (4BIQ)
	[10:29] GaryBergCross: On this english term issue, it is worth noting that Wikipedia has separate 
	versions by language and they are not translations, but populated by native speakers. Hence DBpedias 
	from these may vary...    (4BIR)
	[10:31] AmandaVizedom: @GaryBergCross [10:29] One of Wikidata's goals is to create more content 
	reusability across the language-specific Wikipedias by adding ontology-like conceptual structures 
	with multilingual lexification.    (4BIS)
	[10:32] MatthewWest: @FrancescaQuattri: Actually I think there is an opportunity for an ontology 
	module that supports name/language pair sets for IDs.    (4BIT)
	[10:34] AndreaWesterinen: @MatthewWest [10:32] +1    (4BIU)
	[10:34] AndreaWesterinen: @AlexShkotin and @FrancescaQuattri [10:25] Is it necessary to have 2 
	ontologies or 1 ontology with labels, comments, etc. in different xml:langs? I would prefer the 
	latter since you don't want disconnects.    (4BIV)
	[10:36] FrancescaQuattri: @AndreaWesterinen and @MatthewWest: Andrea, I agree, the second options 
	sounds definitely more appealing. Then a big issue to highlight in our Summary also relates to 
	translation reliability.    (4BIW)
	[10:39] AlexShkotin: @AndreaWesterinen labels are not a part of logic. We use terms native for 
	natural language and use OWL2 operations to describe relationships. It's good for us as we have 
	bilingual dictionary.    (4BIX)
	[10:39] LeoObrst: @FrancescaQuattri and others: I think you will always need vocabularies linked to 
	ontologies, with the vocabularies in possibly distinct languages (locally, these can be distinct 
	labels in the ontologies), but we must take care not to introduce another source of 
	discrepancy/non-reusability by focusing on the natural languages of ontologies, since really it is 
	the logic of the latter that is important.    (4BIY)
	[10:40] AndreaWesterinen: @FrancescaQuattri [10:36] Yes, I have some experience with this ... adding 
	a Spanish translation to an ontology. So, had translations only in an ontology file that built on 
	the original definitions. All triples were loaded into the database and queries assumed that a 
	language was set and passed this as input in each query. So, it really didn't matter what language 
	was used to define the original as long as you had a native speaker to do the translation. Similar 
	to any localization project.    (4BIZ)
	[10:41] AmandaVizedom: Francesca & all: I think there are two issues which should be separated, 
	here. (1) is the language, if any, in which the concepts in the ontology are lexified and annotated. 
	This is the easy part, really, because any concept can have annotations and lexificiation in 
	arbitrarily many languages, and languages can be selected for view/use. (2) is the language, if any, 
	in which concepts in the ontology are *named*. If developers rely on concept *names* for human 
	readable (perhaps because of tool limitations), then one language will dominate, and it is harder to 
	make the ontology as usable in another language.    (4BJ0)
	[10:41] AndreaWesterinen: The problem then comes down to MT.    (4BJ1)
	[10:42] AndreaWesterinen: @AmandaVizedom [10:41] I am not sure that I agree. The issue is tooling 
	and MT. If everything comes down to documentation and metadata, the original ontology language does 
	not matter. SMOT (simple matter of tooling) :-)    (4BJ2)
	[10:42] SimonSpero: SKOS mapping relations arrived via many decades of prior art, not all of which 
	was ignored    (4BJ3)
	[10:44] AmandaVizedom: {continuing my [10:41])... I have worked with one project that very 
	successfully used a very large ontology with developers / users in multiple languages & 
	localizations. This was successful and made original language not so relevant, because the project 
	also used hexadec concept IDs (making it impossible to rely on names, rather than labels) and had 
	in-house built tools, for devs and users, that showed ID with label in lang-loc of choice.    (4BJ4)
	[10:47] AmandaVizedom: @AndreaWesterinen [10:42] I agree about tools. The tools mentioned in my 
	[10:44] enabled making issue (2) [10:41], the original language, irrelevant. That's not so easy to 
	do with standard tools/methods.    (4BJ5)
	[10:54] FrancescaQuattri: @AmandaVizedom: any chance to know more about the project mentioned above?    (4BJ6)
	[10:58] AmandaVizedom: @FrancescaQuattri, Yes and No. It was proprietary, though some aspects are 
	not unique to them and are more publicly known within the relevant technology communities. It was 
	for Convera, which no longer exists. The core tech and team are now part of Vertical Search Works. 
	They have published some descriptions of the approach, with most depth in the areas where they have 
	patented their particular take on (part of) the process.    (4BJ7)
	[11:00] FrancescaQuattri: @AmandaVizedom: thank you for the info    (4BJ8)
	[10:49] AlexShkotin: @AmandaVizedom, have a look at our bi-lingual ontology 
	http://earth.jscc.ru/webprotege/#dic    (4BJ9)
	[10:22] PeterYim: == AnneThessen presenting on "Tackling the Variety Problem in Big Data: 
	Synthesis-II" on behalf of the Track-D co-champions ...    (4BJA)
	[10:33] JackRing: Slide 4. More than pattern matching, pattern discovery (even if not looking for 
	'it')    (4BJB)
	[10:33] PeterYim: == AnatolyLevenchuk presenting a Summary Report on the OntologySummit2014_Hackathon 
	on behalf of the Track-E co-champions and the Hackathon Project Leads ...    (4BJC)
	[10:51] TillMossakowski: Ontohub hackathon: we did mainly different bugfixes    (4BJD)
	[10:51] TillMossakowski: These bugfixes were mainly related to the integration of git repositories 
	and the web portal    (4BJE)
	[10:53] PeterYim: see links to Hackathon details under: 
	http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2014_04_03#nid4BEE    (4BJF)
	[11:00] PeterYim: @ALL Hackathon Leads - if you are planning to do a demo during the 
	OntologySummit2014_Symposium, please let the symposium organizers know, and make sure you take a 
	look at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?VirtualSpeakerSessionTips#nid3IUY ... and prepare accordingly    (4BJG)
	[10:57] PeterYim: == Open Discussion on ideas to optimally fit the above material into the adopted 
	Communique outline, and the positions we want to assume in this year's communique ...    (4BJH)
	[10:59] anonymous1 morphed into LamarHenderson    (4BJI)
	[10:59] GaryBergCross: [re. the Communique Outline] Under 'Sharable and Reusable Ontologies' we 
	might include some examples of Best Practices.    (4BJJ)
	[11:13] AndreaWesterinen: @GaryBergCross [10:59] We have some (very few) examples of suggestions 
	and best practices in our Track A synthesis, but we certainly could do more. Also, we could make 
	this a work item in the IAOA SIG.    (4BJK)
	[11:01] GaryBergCross: The outline has no sub-topic of things like use of ODPs or lightweight 
	ontologies.    (4BJL)
	[11:02] GaryBergCross: (to MichaelGruninger's verbal response on the above remark, that we will be 
	getting to that next level of detail when we start seeing a draft of the Communique next week) 
	Sure...    (4BJM)
	[11:03] TerryLongstreth: @AmandaVizedom - follow-up on your dialogue with Francesca at [10:54] - Did 
	you discover developers memorizing the x' labels, expecting their referents to be invariant?    (4BJN)
	[11:15] AmandaVizedom: @TerryLongstreth, no. But even the normal way of viewing the ontology while 
	coding would show you both hex ID and label (in selected language) and sometimes the label in that 
	language for an appropriate parent, where the label is also a label for other concepts in that 
	language. So, for example, in en-us, you might see a node as "gen.00BT7(Dog(Mammal))" <-- made up 
	example, I have no idea what the ID is for that concept in that ontology.    (4BJO)
	[11:10] PeterYim: I have a feeling we are not addressing current "Big Data" practitioners, who could 
	be data analytics people, adequately ... we almost haven't had a chance to see, for example, any 
	case where an application that applied both mathematical models and semantic models, or the former 
	taking advantage of the latter    (4BJP)
	[11:14] MartinDavtyan: @PeterYim, absolutely agree! There are some cases in Big Data practice which 
	LOOK like ontology engineering, for example Graphical Models for genes, which are reused and shared 
	and collaboratively created just like ontologies. I've spent a lot of time trying to research this 
	exact problem and still searching.    (4BJQ)
	[11:15] GaryBergCross: @PeterYim [14:10] I agree that we haven't addressed Big Data issues directly 
	enough with enough examples.    (4BJR)
	[11:11] TerryLongstreth: @AndreaWesterinen - how do we validate the equivalence of semantics 
	captured by different syntaxes?    (4BJS)
	[11:14] AlexShkotin: @TerryLongstreth, It may be something like translation 
	http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/agbkb/forschung/formal_methods/CoFI/hets/index_e.htm    (4BJT)
	[11:15] AndreaWesterinen: @TerryLongstreth [11:11] I think that this is another function of tooling 
	and testing. But, today, it is manual and just like guaranteeing that you have the right language 
	translation. However, this would be a great topic to explore further. Could you do similarity 
	analysis, etc.? I think so ... kind of like concept mapping.    (4BJU)
	[11:13] GaryBergCross: In terms of things I heard today to include in the communique I would suggest 
	we include the point that Track C (@MatthewWest) made about addressing the level of semantics needed 
	by various types of Application Domains.    (4BJV)
	[11:15] AnneThessen: [responding to the verbal discussion of @PeterYim [11:10], and the request that 
	Track-D might develop more in their write-up to address that, and for AnneThessen's comment (since 
	KenBaclawski is not present)] I am still here    (4BJW)
	[11:15] AnneThessen: Please capture that in the chat. I had to leave to get some water and I missed 
	some of that. .... [ see: @PeterYim [11:10] ]    (4BJX)
	[11:15] AnneThessen: I need to not talk anymore. My voice is about gone.    (4BJY)
	[11:17] LeoObrst: There is an emerging "buzz" term called "deep learning" which addresses the 
	interpretations behind big data, i.e., correlations and patterns, and these must include 
	knowledge-based methods and ontologies, because of causal and explanation needs. Maybe Track D would 
	contribute some input on this, if they consider it important.    (4BJZ)
	[11:20] DominiqueMariko: @PeterYim [11:10] I started reading this today, don't know if it could be 
	of any help : logistic regression model for predicting the singleton/coreferent distinction, drawing 
	on linguistic insights about how discourse entity lifespans are affected by syntactic and semantic 
	features : http://nlp.stanford.edu/pubs/discourse-referent-lifespans.pdf    (4BK0)
	[11:21] DominiqueMariko: Don't have the audio plug-sorry    (4BK1)
	[11:26] PeterYim: @DominiqueMariko - thank you for the input ... would be great if you can capture 
	that (if appropriate) and/or additional thoughts to the page at: 
	http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014_Tackling_Variety_In_BigData_CommunityInput    (4BK2)
	[11:28] DominiqueMariko: @PeterYim OK.    (4BK3)
	[11:19] GaryBergCross: Hackathons can illustrate practices, tools and how one uses ontologies.    (4BK4)
	[11:21] AnatolyLevenchuk: @GaryBergCross: many Hackathon project not finished yet! Not only final 
	reporting but actual work! But we already have valuable observation in Hackathon project content.    (4BK5)
	[11:23] AndreaWesterinen: I would encourage everyone to read the Track A synthesis and suggest where 
	we should expand the topics and examples. I will update to bring in the dialog on the "reuseful" 
	email which is getting lots of good discussion.    (4BK6)
	[11:24] GaryBergCross: Track A synthesis at 
	http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014_Common_Reusable_Semantic_Content_Synthesis    (4BK7)
	[11:17] PeterYim: @ALL: as announced by our Symposium co-chairs, Dr. Ram Sriram & Professor TimFinin 
	our Apr 28~29 Symposium (at NSF in Greater Washington DC) is now open for registration. Please 
	register yourself ASAP, as capacity is limited - see OntologySummit2014_Symposium details at: 
	http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014_Symposium ... Note the Apr-4 (5pm ET) 
	deadline for reserving blocked hotel rooms for the Ontology Summit Symposium at the group pricing 
	- ref. details under: 
	http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014/WorkshopRegistration#nid49ZL ... Register 
	for the Symposium NOW, if you haven't already! 
	- see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014/WorkshopRegistration    (4BK8)
	[11:26] PeterYim: @ALL: Please mark your calendars and reserve this same time for the next two 
	Thursdays, when we will be working on getting the OntologySummit2014_Communique reviewed and 
	finalized during those two virtual sessions. In particular ... Session-13 will be up next Thursday - 
	2014_04_10 - Thursday: OntologySummit2014: session-13: Communique Review - Session Co-chairs: 
	MichaelGruninger & LeoObrst - Panelists: All Contributing Editors - ref. developing details at: 
	http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2014_04_10 and 
	http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014_Communique/Draft    (4BK9)
	[11:27] PeterYim: @org-comm members, Reminder to those in the organizing committee, our next meeting 
	(n.10) is coming up tomorrow - Fri 2014.04.04 - see: 
	http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014/GettingOrganized#nid4ANC    (4BKA)
	[11:27] PeterYim: Very productive session ... thank you ALL!    (4BKB)
	[11:27] EdBernot: Great session, thanks!    (4BKC)
	[11:28] LeoObrst: Thanks, all!    (4BKD)
	[11:28] DominiqueMariko: Thanks all!    (4BKE)
	[11:27] PeterYim: -- session ended: 11:24 am PDT --    (4BKF)
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